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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2011, 06:58:48 AM »
I am kind of thinking I would just say I shot it on public land and it ran over on the private land to die.......................Game over.  Thats my story and I am sticking to it.  Has creativity just died or what?  Larry

You would be busted when enforcement asks you to show them where it was when you first shot it and they don't find any tracks or blood.
Why be creative in lieing? Be truly creative and make that yote come to you on legal land.




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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2011, 07:17:15 AM »
Once upon a time there was a rule called the Unarmed retrieve.. It was to attempt to take care of the wasted game and still get the hunter to put fort the effort... Some people took it upon them selves to use it to hunt others fields, Mainly waterfowl hunting by pass shooting or setting up on someones fence row.. I'm guessing It was a local mooching off a gun club that screwed this rule up...
Little Dave is correct on the method of retrieval now...
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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2011, 07:20:36 AM »
I am kind of thinking I would just say I shot it on public land and it ran over on the private land to die.......................Game over.  Thats my story and I am sticking to it.  Has creativity just died or what?  Larry

The epitome of the ethical hunter right there…..

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2011, 07:32:34 AM »
If you shot the yote on public land and then it ran onto private land you could legally go onto the private land to retrieve your kill.  You have to leave your weapon behind on the public land though.

Not in Washington.  It could be that way in another state.
Leave the guns behind if you like, even strip stark naked and hold daisies, if an animal falls on private land the law in this state does not grant you the right to retrieve it without first gaining permission to enter the property.  If you cannot negotiate access and you are concerned about the animal wasting, you can request assistance from an game enforcement officer to retrieve the animal for you.  I figure it a slow day for them if they have time to help you with a coyote.

that is a great suggestion  :chuckle: :chuckle: might get a trip to the looney bin for that  :chuckle:

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2011, 07:36:48 AM »
I find it amazing that anyone cares about shooting a coyote... I  would care less about a Yote even if it was on my property... I might get pissed if it was around my stock, Then i'd be furious... Or if they shot at him skylined or something else stupid... :twocents:
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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2011, 09:11:22 AM »
I find it amazing that anyone cares about shooting a coyote... I  would care less about a Yote even if it was on my property... I might get pissed if it was around my stock, Then i'd be furious... Or if they shot at him skylined or something else stupid... :twocents:

There are farmers over here that will turn in anyone hunting coyotes on their land, they want the coyotes to control the rodent population and they can get real upset if they see you shooting dogs. It sucks but it happens and then you just move along to another location. Ranchers on the other hand, will sometimes welcome coyote hunters if they are having a problem but often times they would rather just handle the problem themselves if they have time.
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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2011, 09:50:52 AM »
I lost two elk as Rasbo' example stated stuck an arrow in it and it ran into private land and died.  I could actually see one side of the antler from the fence.  I was told by the rancher no way, Game officer said he as to stand by the land owner.  Rancher's hired hand had to take care of the elk.

So as Rasbo stated... "Game Over" 

But shooting it on someone's property is disrespectful and I would consider it against the law as well but I do not have the RCW to quote it.
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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2011, 10:05:41 AM »
I'll ask everyone here this simple question.    Why is it so hard to find private land to hunt on, whether it be coyotes, upland, migratory, deer, etc.?

Read Trotterlg's quote on page 1 and you'll have your answer.  Land owners are not stupid.     :DOH:

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2011, 11:06:01 AM »
I would think the smart thing to do when securing access is to #1 know your boundrys. If you are hunting varmits, big game, birds, whatever, you darn well should know the thoughts of the neighbors. They may be ok with a poodle but not a deer. Bottom line is if you don't know, don't trespass in any way.

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2011, 11:13:33 AM »
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I am kind of thinking I would just say I shot it on public land and it ran over on the private land to die.......................Game over.  Thats my story and I am sticking to it.  Has creativity just died or what?  Larry

"Has creativity died or what"  Larry I do not believe that creativity died, but I do belive that good ethics has died. Sounds to me that your just like the guys that shoot deer on my property and then throw them in your truck taken take off before the warden gets to my place.
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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2011, 12:04:29 PM »
If you shot the yote on public land and then it ran onto private land you could legally go onto the private land to retreive your kill.  You have to leave your weapon behind on the public land though.

My Bad!  Thank you all for pointing that out to me!  I guess I need to reread the regs again for the 101th time. It was different where I grew up in Iowa.  The laws allowed you to persue game.  Seems to me that it would be the right thing to do. I guess there is always a few who ruin it for the rest of us.

From the Iowa Regs...
"The law does not prohibit the unarmed
pursuit of game or furbearing animals lawfully
injured or killed which come to rest on or escape to
the property of another."

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2011, 12:31:21 PM »
I actually spoke with a judge last night. We have one in the family.

She said that a good example of trespass is if a company is doing demolition work by blasting.
If any debris from the explosion lands on another persons property, they are technically guilty of trespass.
She assumes that firing a bullet over/onto someones property would be viewed the same way.

Don't get the wrong idea about me as even if it were legal, I do feel that it is unethical.
I just thought it was an interesting question asked by a co-worker!

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2011, 01:07:11 PM »
You guys are just wound way too tight.  This is a Coyote we are talking about, it's not even a game animal.  Larry

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2011, 01:30:37 PM »
You guys are just wound way too tight.  This is a Coyote we are talking about, it's not even a game animal.  Larry

I think what you posted is what a lot of people were thinking but didn't say. So don't sweat it. What I say on the internet is not always what I would say to someone off the internet. It's kind of like how you tell your kids to do one thing but you do another. The question in the original post could have a lot of variables which could have an affect on how I would answer it. But, the simple answer to the question is that it would be considered trespassing. However I wouldn't say that I would never do such a thing. Maybe other people do follow the law to the letter no matter what, but I'm not quite that perfect, and I can think of at least a couple instances where I have shot coyotes that were on private land, while I was not actually standing on that land.

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Re: Trespassing Question.
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2011, 03:22:24 PM »
You're right Larry, I do get wound up tight.  But only when the hunter has to LIE about how that yote ended up dead on private property, while the shooter is standing on public property.  It's sad and unfortunate that some people just don't get it.  I have seen it all, and heard all the lame excuses over the years owning land that lays next to public land.  Have your out building shot up, or a tractor window shot out, then maybe you'll understand what I'm talking about.  Is it just a stupid coyote?   

 


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