270 WSM or 300WSM?

[actionshooter]

I'm gonna buy a new Tikka T3 lite soon and I want a 7WSM but they don't make it. I'm looking at using the rifle as my main muley gun, gonna retire the older, heavy Winchester M70 in .300WM I have used for years. I wont hesitate to shoot 3-400 yards, so take that into consideration.

 Just looking for opinions on the 2 calibers and why.

[ICEMAN]

Just curious, why the short magnums...?

[MountainWalk]

i agree with iceman,,, why..... of the two, i would take the 300... you have already shot it. so you know how it behaves

[Red Dawg]

I would take the 270 wsm any day. The ballistics are great and it is a little different than norm caliber. Why use it. Because they are bad ass. Great killer in a short action.

[ICEMAN]

Actually, I am not really up to speed on why folks enjoy the shorty's. I have no experience with them. The rounds look cool, but I was unsure if "balistically" they perform any better than a traditional round. Just curious...

[Red Dawg]

The 300 is nearly identical and the 270wsm is much better than the traditional one.

[MountainWalk]

ive only had dealings with two short action mags, both 270... mine is a fairly good all around rifle,  my pals is identical to mine and by far more accurate..   but i do prefer a trad. loading.  seems like both have balky feeding.. dont know if sm's  come in controlled round feed rifles...

i just think there are better more sensible choices out there.. shoot a box of 270wsm's runs pretty close to some of my 338 shells

[bobcat]

The only real difference I see between the two is the amount of recoil. A deer is going to be dead if hit with either one, makes absolutely no difference. If you prefer less recoil you might want the 270. If recoil doesn't matter to you then you might want the 300, just because it might be slightly better on elk if you ever use it for that. Another thing to think about is that the 300 WSM is much more popular than the 270 and it may be around longer, while the 270 may become obsolete, and if it does ammo may be difficult to find. If you reload it probably doesn't matter, but if not, the 300 would be the smarter choice in my opinion.

[bobcat]

The 300 is nearly identical and the 270wsm is much better than the traditional one.

I wouldn't say the 270 WSM is much better than the "traditional one." Sure it's maybe 200 feet per second faster but that extra velocity comes with the use of more powder and produces more recoil. And you're really not going to see any ballistic advantage until you get out beyond 400 yards. I know I don't feel handicapped in the least with my "traditional" 270 and I'd prefer to not have any more recoil than it already has.

[MountainWalk]

on the off chance that i dont grab the 338 or the 06,, i grab my traditional 270. the short 270 stays at home with the rest of the gang..

bottom line,, i dont feel a huge need to get over 3000fps,, i really like things between 2600-2800 feet per second.. dont like bullets flying apart at close ranges and i dont really need to buy premium bullets for deer hunting..
i agree, the 300sm will prolly outlive the 270sm... dont know what happened to the wssm's... golly thats a lot of "s's"....

[Red Dawg]

What I like about the 270wsm is the fact that you take one of the best bullet coefficients around and put a bit more pwder behind it. The 270 win is a spectacular gun but for this persons purpose, he wants a magnum. So he might want to shoot out past 400 yards. I am no gun expert but the 270wsm is a great caliber and just a little bit different. Both of my hunting partners shoot 300wsm and they are great killers also. But the 270wsm will do the same.

[Bofire]

For factory loads the 300 short mag and Win mag are about the same, mebbe a slight advantage to the short. BUT for reloaders the Win mag. has 7-10% more capacity. I know very little about the 270 short. I am a big fan of the standard 270.
Carl

[Tony 270WSM]

Although you don't ned a magnum for that hunting many of our gear choices are about what we want rather than need. So out of the two I would choose the 270. More than enough power, less recoil and a flatter trajectory at long range.

[Curly]

Go with the 270WSM.  You already have a 300WM, so you could use it if you ever go elk hunting.

Personally, I think the T3 lite is too light for chambering in the 300WSM.  I like a little heavier rifle for the 30 magnums to help reduce felt recoil.  But the 270WSM seems like it would be about right for that rifle.  I think 140gr Barnes TSX would be great in that cartridge.

[actionshooter]

I think the main reason the short mags were brought about is the weight factor, they use a beefed up short action instead of a long action. Thats a fair amount of weight saved, I have read an average of 1# over a long action mag of the same caliber.
 I don't need a short mag but I don't have one in the safe 
   
I'm an ounce counter b/c this will be used as a backpack rifle.
 I'm leaning to the 270WSM due to the ballistic coeficient, I don't go looking for long range shots but if one is presented and I can't get closer I will take the shot if the conditions are right.
 Thats a whole other topic thats been covered here in the past.