Man busted for poaching trophy bull elk in the Blue Mountains

[bearpaw]

It's just amazing there are so many repeat offenders which is more than likely because of the slap on the wrist they usually get.

Do you really think taking peoples license away means they stop poaching?
Look at how many people WDFW catches on revoked or suspended licenses and are still hunting and fishing.

Good point that needed said. 

[Bob33]

What if you shoot and kill someone while hunting?

Well believe it or not but there is a WDFW RCW for shooting another person/livestock (yes we are in the same law as a cow) and the penalty is a suspended license, not revocation. Now I cant remember a time when this offense was actually used for shooting a person, usually if someone shoots someone hunting there are some type of manslaughter, reckless endangerment charges, etc.

RCW 77.15.720: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.720
1) If a person shoots another person or domestic livestock while hunting, the director shall revoke all hunting licenses and suspend all hunting privileges for three years. If the shooting of another person or livestock is the result of criminal negligence or reckless or intentional conduct, then the person's privileges shall be suspended for ten years. The suspension shall be continued beyond these periods if damages owed to the victim or livestock owner have not been paid by the suspended person. A hunting license shall not be reissued to the suspended person unless authorized by the director.

     (2) Within twenty days of service of an order suspending privileges or imposing conditions under this section or RCW 77.15.710, a person may petition for administrative review under chapter 34.05 RCW by serving the director with a petition for review. The order is final and unappealable if there is no timely petition for administrative review.

     (3) The commission may by rule authorize petitions for reinstatement of administrative suspensions and define circumstances under which reinstatement will be allowed.

[Pathfinder101]

It's just amazing there are so many repeat offenders which is more than likely because of the slap on the wrist they usually get.

Do you really think taking peoples license away means they stop poaching?

No, but it makes them a lot easier to track and re-ticket.  If you are a gamey, and you know this guys had his license pulled, and you see his truck parked out somewhere during hunting season, you investigate.  

[bigtex]

It's just amazing there are so many repeat offenders which is more than likely because of the slap on the wrist they usually get.

Do you really think taking peoples license away means they stop poaching?

No, but it makes them a lot easier to track and re-ticket.  If you are a gamey, and you know this guys had his license pulled, and you see his truck parked out somewhere during hunting season, you investigate.  

Thats true but there are hundreds, if not a thousand or more people who have a suspended license in WA. A fewer amount are also revoked. WA is part of an agreement where if you loose your license in one state you loose it in many other states so there are a lot of people to "watch". Is it possible for the local WDFW Officer to know the local people who are suspended? Possibly but depends on the area. But how many people only hunt locally? There is no way an officer knows every vehicle and every suspended/revoked hunter.

[rtspring]

If you are caught POACHING, It should be you lose your riht to ever hunt or fish in the state of Washington for life.

I don't care if it is a duck,sheep, moose, pheasant ,deer, elk  whatever.  

Poaching is Poaching and should not be tolerated in any shape or form. No second chances period...

[Pathfinder101]

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It's just amazing there are so many repeat offenders which is more than likely because of the slap on the wrist they usually get.

Do you really think taking peoples license away means they stop poaching?

No, but it makes them a lot easier to track and re-ticket.  If you are a gamey, and you know this guys had his license pulled, and you see his truck parked out somewhere during hunting season, you investigate. 

Thats true but there are hundreds, if not a thousand or more people who have a suspended license in WA. A fewer amount are also revoked. WA is part of an agreement where if you loose your license in one state you loose it in many other states so there are a lot of people to "watch". Is it possible for the local WDFW Officer to know the local people who are suspended? Possibly but depends on the area. But how many people only hunt locally? There is no way an officer knows every vehicle and every suspended/revoked hunter.

Not every one, but if they're local, I can tell you without doubt, they know your rig...

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[bigtex]

Poaching is Poaching and should not be tolerated in any shape or form. No second chances period...

Not to bash you, but what is poaching?
Any violation of WDFW reg is poaching? So something like a barbed hook?
Over limit of one trout? Overlimit of one clam which will cost ya 54?

"Poaching" does not have a legal definition in WA state. So what might be poaching to one person is not to another. There are many "good" people that have WDFW tickets, most aren't for "serious" violations, should those lose their licenses?

[Pathfinder101]

Poaching is Poaching and should not be tolerated in any shape or form. No second chances period...

Not to bash you, but what is poaching?
Any violation of WDFW reg is poaching? So something like a barbed hook?
Over limit of one trout? Overlimit of one clam which will cost ya 54?

"Poaching" does not have a legal definition in WA state. So what might be poaching to one person is not to another. There are many "good" people that have WDFW tickets, most aren't for "serious" violations, should those lose their licenses?

Oh boy.  Here we go.  THe unanswerable questions:

1.  What is God?
2.  What is the meaning of life?
3.  WHat is the sound of one hand clapping?
4.  If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
5.  What is true poaching....?

 

[runamuk]

Poaching is Poaching and should not be tolerated in any shape or form. No second chances period...

Not to bash you, but what is poaching?
Any violation of WDFW reg is poaching? So something like a barbed hook?
Over limit of one trout? Overlimit of one clam which will cost ya 54?

"Poaching" does not have a legal definition in WA state. So what might be poaching to one person is not to another. There are many "good" people that have WDFW tickets, most aren't for "serious" violations, should those lose their licenses?

Oh boy.  Here we go.  THe unanswerable questions:

1.  What is God?
2.  What is the meaning of life?
3.  WHat is the sound of one hand clapping?
4.  If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
5.  What is true poaching....?

 

yeah what he said......

[bigtex]

Poaching is Poaching and should not be tolerated in any shape or form. No second chances period...

Not to bash you, but what is poaching?
Any violation of WDFW reg is poaching? So something like a barbed hook?
Over limit of one trout? Overlimit of one clam which will cost ya 54?

"Poaching" does not have a legal definition in WA state. So what might be poaching to one person is not to another. There are many "good" people that have WDFW tickets, most aren't for "serious" violations, should those lose their licenses?

Oh boy.  Here we go.  THe unanswerable questions:

1.  What is God?
2.  What is the meaning of life?
3.  WHat is the sound of one hand clapping?
4.  If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
5.  What is true poaching....?

 

Well its a topic I deal with everyday. And when someone comes on here and says all poachers should lose their license, well there is no definition of poacher. Thats like saying all drunks shouldn't drive, does that mean everyone who has ever been drunk or everyone who has been arrested for DUI?

[rtspring]

BIGTEX,

It shouldn't be that hard to define it.  We all know what it is do we not?

If you don't you shouldn't be hunting or fishing........
Or are we gonna hide behind the legal paperwork once again???

[bigtex]

BIGTEX,

It shouldn't be that hard to define it.  We all know what it is do we not?

If you don't you shouldn't be hunting or fishing........
Or are we gonna hide behind the legal paperwork once again???

So then according to you every person who is cited for barbed hook which isn't a criminal offense is a poacher?
Think there are a lot of people that would disagree.

[rtspring]

I'm speaking about the people illegaly taking such as an ELK out of seaon, with no tag, no license.

What most consider "poaching"..

You obviously know the books real well. I have read alot of your posts.

I was trying to state the fact that if you commit the above stated  "Poaching" you should be banned for life.

Wasn't trying to say what was written or what wasn't. Maybe with all your knowledge of the subect you could do somehting about it.

[jackelope]

Anybody know if this was the Peola bull(s) that got poached last year?
400out?

[Sumpnneedskillin]

 

Anybody know if this was the Peola bull(s) that got poached last year?
400out?

I don't think so.  The article mentioned he used his wife's tag.