I sure wish we could use expandible broadheads on big game! (Poll added)

[The100Road]

No its not. You can use a scope and shoot 400 yards with modern. And a clip

[Curly]

No its not. You can use a scope and shoot 400 yards with modern. And a clip

No its not what?

[The100Road]

So your comparing a muzzleloader with 209's to a modern firearm?

[Machias]

No he's saying your already allowed to use a scoped muzzy and 209 primers....in the modern season.

[The100Road]

right right, Okay. back to the original topic. 

[Machias]

 

[Snapshot]

Ashby tested RAGE mechanicals last time around and the results are on pages 11-12...

http://www.tradgang.com/ashby/2008update7.pdf

[Curly]

Thanks Machias. 

MDGrand, The100Road, or others, feel free to post up some polls on 209's, scopes on muzzy, and lumilockss in the appropriate section and I will be glad to debate those topics (again).

Back to the original topic.....expandable broadheads:

My take:

Expandable broadheads have not been shown to be reliable.  So, I think it would be in the best interest of the hunting community (to keep from getting a black eye in the minds of the anti-hunters) by using methods that have been proven to be the most reliable in providing good penetration and clean kills (fixed broadhead).

[gonehuntin68]

than why do other states allow it, who here has used one and have one fail

[Button Nubbs]

I would be willing to bet not many, being as they are illegal here.

[oldleclercrd]

Exactly. So thats why its hard to figure out why so many people are against them when they havent even tried them. Oh and its legal to use the on small game button nubbs.

[KillBilly]

It's this simple... they are illegal in Washington because when they open, they form a barb that won't allow the arrow to fall out or be pulled out. Many animals would perish using barbed broadheads that live today when a bad shot is made and only wounds the animal. Most of them never get found and die of infection or slow blood loss.

[Button Nubbs]

I know they are and I'm fine with small game. Deer, ok maybe but unless they said for deer only I would still vote no. I don't believe they have any place in elk or bear hunting. But I would still probably vote no even when it was just for deer. Why would you want something that has the chance of failing when that trophy steps out. I know I would never forgive myself if that happened. Cut on contact dosent fail. There are so many options on good broadheads that "fly like field points" I don't think we need expandables. I have a couple friends who live in kansas and they breathe bowhunting. They don't use expandables anymore even tho they can. They have both had expandables fail.

[oldleclercrd]

Everyone has their opinion and their entitled to it. So just one question, all those little gadgets on peoples bows are fail proof thats why you guys use them right? If their not fail proof then upon failing it could jepordize the flight of your arrow and injuire the animal right? Buy you use them anyways.......

[Button Nubbs]

Well if that's the case anything has the opportunity to fail and none of use should hunt except with our bear hands. Oh wait our fingers might cramp And we might not to be able to finish the job that way. I guess we shouldn't hunt at all...

C'mon dude, having a rest, sight and peep are completely different from shooting expandable broadheads. Try a different argument...