Author Topic: Hunting license requirements for Grey Diggers (Read 10948 times)

wence5 · « **on:** May 29, 2011, 06:54:01 PM »

Ok, maybe I'm just stupid, but I don't see a license requirement for shooting Grey Diggers. They aren't listed under small game. What do you guys do?

JimmyHoffa · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:14:58 PM »

There are lists of critters on pg 71 of the regs (7,8,9). I think if it isn't on any of those lists or has a set season, then they would be okay to blast. Like I don't see wild boar anywhere, so you can blast them.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:17:26 PM »

Quote from: JimmyHoffa on May 29, 2011, 08:14:58 PM

There are lists of critters on pg 71 of the regs (7,8,9). I think if it isn't on any of those lists or has a set season, then they would be okay to blast. Like I don't see wild boar anywhere, so you can blast them.

They don' t say bald eagle either

just because its not listed doesn't mean they are o.k. to shoot

Check the reg's

In this state you blast a "wild boar" 99% chance you are going to jail for killing livestock

logger · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:21:24 PM »

Guess I am a violator, I smack everyone of them rat *censored*s I can.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:22:56 PM »

No not saying it's illegal

JimmyHoffa · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:27:17 PM »

for bald eagles, the regs say 'all birds not considered game birds, except starlings, house sparrows, rock doves and magpies'.

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2011, 08:34:41 PM »

no worries

Just making a point. It's always good to look in the reg's instead of ask and get into trouble over, "well they said on the internet

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littletoes · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2011, 07:26:41 AM »

Heres one for you!!!

It lists "Crows", BUT Ravens are PROTECTED. Crows have squared off tail feathers, RAVENS have squared off tail feathers with both sides "tapered", so if you look at what most of us call "Crows", you'll notice they are a subspecies of RAVEN, and are in Fact-----PROTECTED.

A "Bird Guy" taught me this a while ago.....and I'll just bet our Game Wardens are not aware of this FACT.

Don't believe me? Look it up, I did.

Bob33 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2011, 07:37:36 AM »

Quote from: littletoes on May 30, 2011, 07:26:41 AM

I'll just bet our Game Wardens are not aware of this FACT.

I'll take your bet. That's been the case for as long as I can remember. Ravens are usually noticeably larger, and are definitely protected.

littletoes · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2011, 07:45:50 AM »

No they ain't!

I'm talking about the small birds we "THINK" are Crows...check out the tail-feathers on the next bunch you see.

At least that is the issue on this side of the state.

700xcr · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2011, 08:06:25 AM »

Back to the topic in hand I do believe you need a small game or big game license to hunt any non-game animals. I know rock doves you need either or as I talked with a Game Warden in my area. I know Oregon you can get away not buying a license as long as you hunt private ground with a letter from landowner that you are hired for predator control.

Bofire · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2011, 09:54:49 AM »

I see no requirement for a license for grey diggers, every hunting section in the book has a note that says "hunting license required" grey diggers are not mentioned.

My Audubon guide and the birds outside: Crows have 'fan" shaped tails(rounded) Ravens are wedge shaped. squared off but teh outside feathers are shorter.
Carl

Kain · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2011, 12:49:54 PM »

Quote from: littletoes on May 30, 2011, 07:26:41 AM

Heres one for you!!!

It lists "Crows", BUT Ravens are PROTECTED. Crows have squared off tail feathers, RAVENS have squared off tail feathers with both sides "tapered", so if you look at what most of us call "Crows", you'll notice they are a subspecies of RAVEN, and are in Fact-----PROTECTED.

A "Bird Guy" taught me this a while ago.....and I'll just bet our Game Wardens are not aware of this FACT.

Don't believe me? Look it up, I did.

Im sure game wardens as well as most hunters can tell the difference between crows and ravens. If not here is the site you need to go to.

http://depts.washington.edu/natmap/facts/crow_vs_raven.html

littletoes · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2011, 05:08:28 PM »

Got it Kain!

Hey guys...are not "Grey Diggers" in fact Ground Squirrels??? Not an actual "squirrel", grey or otherwise in color???

So, since we need some type of hunting license in this "its all about the money-so you indeed sure need a license for everything and anything" state, doesn't that mean we need a license???

And we can shoot ground squirrels with a small game license, except "Washington" ground squirrels are protected too....but they only live somewhere in the center of the state, I think!

Help me out here if I iz wrong!

Bob33 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2011, 05:36:39 PM »

"Grey diggers" are "California ground squirrels" (Otospermophilus beecheyi). They are not protected in Washington.

Squirrels that are protected in Washington include: Washington Ground, Red, Douglas, Northern Flying, Western Grey.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-011

Best to know the difference before shooting, as consequences can be severe for shooting a protected specie.

littletoes · « **Reply #15 on:** May 30, 2011, 06:30:14 PM »

Thanks Bob!

Must be a species that are not too afraid of living close to man? Don't think we have 'em around here. For that matter, quite a few folks around here have to "travel" to do any kind of ground squirrel shooting. Friend just got back from Montana, where no type of license is required to shoot them. He had a blast too.

wence5 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 30, 2011, 10:16:15 PM »

Here is the vermin in question. Shot 5 today. Not too good, but any day in the field is a good day. Did shoot one at over 100 yards with the old 10/22.

bhylton · « **Reply #17 on:** May 30, 2011, 10:30:52 PM »

the grey diggers, compared to the other squirrels look most similar to the grey squirrel in size. but the grey diggers tend to by slightly more tan colored and are covered in spots. lit up a bunch above klickitat saturday with a 243.

porcupine · « **Reply #18 on:** May 30, 2011, 10:44:47 PM »

On page 12 of the regs, top of the orange box directly under Big Game Licenses....... "Forest grouse and unclassified wildlife (including coyote) may be hunted with either a small game license or a big game license." Grey diggers would probably fall into the UNCLASSIFIED group if it is listed as a game animal, endangered species, or protected animal. Should be able to hunt with either license.

sirfunkeybut · « **Reply #19 on:** May 31, 2011, 12:22:39 AM »

i have permission on private land and i called the local department of fish and wildlife and the lady told me i needed a small game license.

demontang · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2011, 02:08:15 PM »

You need a small game lic to hunt them.

runamuk · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2011, 02:18:19 PM »

Quote from: littletoes on May 30, 2011, 07:26:41 AM

Heres one for you!!!

It lists "Crows", BUT Ravens are PROTECTED. Crows have squared off tail feathers, RAVENS have squared off tail feathers with both sides "tapered", so if you look at what most of us call "Crows", you'll notice they are a subspecies of RAVEN, and are in Fact-----PROTECTED.

A "Bird Guy" taught me this a while ago.....and I'll just bet our Game Wardens are not aware of this FACT.

Don't believe me? Look it up, I did.

yep magpies, crows, ravens all related and very easy to tell apart plus tend to have different habits crows (and magpies) tend to gather in murders, ravens more often are in pairs or small family groups

CamoKevin · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2011, 12:56:18 PM »

I thought the only thing you could "hunt" without licences is the bull frog.

Yes I know the government waste's money but it's 36 bucks, around here that's not even dinner for two somewhere nice.

TheHunt · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2011, 01:13:44 PM »

Quote from: carpsniperg2 on May 29, 2011, 08:34:41 PM

no worries Just making a point. It's always good to look in the reg's instead of ask and get into trouble over, "well they said on the internet "

You could not have said it better!!!

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