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Offline Gringo31

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Inside scoop
« on: June 09, 2011, 09:00:20 PM »
Interesting.....

Heard today from someone who would know......but all the water going over Grand Coulee Dam (and I've heard of this before) is creating too much nitrogen in the water and killing off lots of steelhead.  A guy that works at the land fill told me that they are netting up the dead ones......the first day was today and 6 semi loads of steelhead came in to be landfilled.
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 09:02:37 PM »
I heard the same thing a few days ago but not about the netting up of the dead steelies. That really sucks!
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 09:04:46 PM »
Are they actually steelhead or are they fish out of the net pens. The news story said that most of the fish that were dieing were in the net pens. 
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 09:06:30 PM »
 :yike: thats a lot of fish, bears will be all over that landfill...
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 09:13:07 PM »
what I dont get is WHY?? dont tell me theres too much water..have u seen northport?? desolate..dunno if I have ever seen it that low
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 09:22:28 PM »
Quote from: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
what I dont get is WHY?? dont tell me theres too much water..have u seen northport?? desolate..dunno if I have ever seen it that low

LOL should make an interesting Governor's cup this month.
Along with trying to launch around the 4th
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 09:27:46 PM »
tell u the truth I dunno if there is anywhere to launch..maybe kettle falls..couldnt imagine up river tho
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2011, 09:31:36 PM »
Northport area..
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 09:33:14 PM »
They're making room for all the water they expect to come when the snow starts melting....


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43257643/ns/weather/
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 09:40:26 PM »
I don't think they are steelhead as I have been there and most look like Triploid rainbows like the tribe raises and release. Also in my opinion one problem is they over stock those pens and there is a lack of oxygen as it is. Then add high nitrogen levels and you get a lot of dead fish.

I find it funny though is I know people who are catching lots of fish 3 pounds and up. The only pens really being affected are Pacific Seafoods (upper and middle pens) as I haven't heard if the tribes pens(lower) have been effected to the same extent. The fish that are freely swimming are moving downriver and away from Grand Coulee Dam it seems.

All that being said it is a heavy snow year, but I have never seen them lower Roosevelt to that level even on super heavy snow years, so makes one wonder when they will start filling it again.
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 09:41:06 PM »
is 1239 today. Heres the mins at the launches!!


 
L.Snook NPS

Evans boat launch.
MINIMUM BOAT LAUNCH ELEVATIONS


Crescent Bay  1265' 
Spring Canyon  1222' 
Keller Ferry  1229' 
Hansen Harbor  1253' 
Jones Bay 1266'
Lincoln Mill 1245'
Hawk Creek  1281'
Seven Bays 1227'
Fort Spokane 1247'
Porcupine Bay 1243'
Hunters Camp 1230'
Gifford  1249'
Daisy  1265'
Bradbury Beach 1251'
Kettle Falls 1234'
Marcus Island 1281'
Evans 1280' 
North Gorge 1280'
Snag Cove  1277'
French Rocks 1265'
Napoleon Bridge   1280'
China Bend 1277'
       

Not sure I want to run the boat up the river from Kettle! A ton of playing hazards not counting everything floating.
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 09:46:08 PM »
CHINA bend is out of the water
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 09:50:32 PM »
Quote from: huntnnw on June 09, 2011, 09:13:07 PM
what I dont get is WHY?? dont tell me theres too much water..have u seen northport?? desolate..dunno if I have ever seen it that low

It is the net pen fish dying. Reason is due to the water pouring over and affecting notrogen levels. The pen fish are shallow and like said before nearly not enough oxygen to begin with.

The owners of the pens are going to try a lawsuit. I think the dam might have been there first.  :dunno: :chuckle:
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 09:53:34 PM »
only 38 feet that's darn near wet!! On the plus side it should make for some good fishing when it gets up to launch.
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Re: Inside scoop
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2011, 10:17:28 AM »
These fish are not steelhead. There are no steelhead found above Cheif Joseph due to the lackign fish ladder. The fish are triploids dying from raised total dissolved gas (tdg) levels causing Gas Bubble Trauma (GBT). Higher  tdg levels occur when there is an excess of water spilled over the spillway. Gas levels lower as they work downstream toward the next dam where they rise once again.

Heres a link explainign more:

http://fishbio.com/fisheries-news/regional-fisheries-news/mid-columbia-net-pen-trout-rearing-operation-taking-losses-from-gas-bubble-disease

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