I know some people that jig for them at night. Like was said before the only way i've fished for them is trolling. I use 4-5 oz. banana weight, lake trolls, rubber bands and then a homemade wedding ring tipped with either maggots or white shoe peg corn. Have had better luck with maggots on sullivan lake. Usually I let out about 40-50 ft. of line, but this is all up at sullivan lake but what works here may not work other places. Good luck.