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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #165 on: April 06, 2012, 03:54:51 PM »
Bearpaw,   :tup:

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #166 on: April 06, 2012, 06:56:36 PM »
As said, I'm pro-hunting but i can't help but laugh my ass off at hunters screaming "we are trying to save our herds!". Your not saving them if your trying to kill them.

Now I know for a fact you are not and never have been a hunter.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #167 on: April 06, 2012, 07:03:14 PM »
As said, I'm pro-hunting but i can't help but laugh my ass off at hunters screaming "we are trying to save our herds!". Your not saving them if your trying to kill them. We get it, you don't like having to work harder for your kills, but at least be real about it istead of that sorry excuse that no one believes.

And BTW, I don't have sympathy for child rapists. I hope they die a slow, painful death. No rapist should be given a 2nd chance.


so there is a we
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #168 on: April 06, 2012, 07:12:48 PM »
 :yeah:
Hasn't been real hard to figure out.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #169 on: April 06, 2012, 07:15:02 PM »
We as in the world. Nice try, though.
We would be better off to not have been, but since we're here, it's our responsibility to exist without standing in natures way, It is not in our DNA to mandatorily become environmentally destructive juggernauts!

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #170 on: April 06, 2012, 07:17:28 PM »
some of us live in the REAL world  :rolleyes:
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #171 on: April 06, 2012, 07:23:32 PM »
bearpaw, I can see both sides of this discussion. I just wanted to say, good for you for standing your ground, a good friend is hard to find and I think most of us would like a friend like you.  :tup:

THANKS, I understand both sides too, and just to clear the air, I have told people in leadership positions that it worries me that wolves are not doing the public perception toward poaching any good. Great strides have been made to curb poaching in recent years. Now we have a specie that is above the law and it is threatening people's livlihoods and threatening our game herds and WDFW sides with all the wolf groups to force too many of these beasts upon those of us who have to live with them.

If you drive over to Idaho and talk to local residents in any small rural town you will find a large percentage who will tell you that wolf season will never end, it's open season year around. As wolf problems escalate in Washington you will see more and more people who take on that attitude. It's not good.

To top off my own frustration last year a neighbor who lives only 2 miles from me had 5 adult wolves trying to attack his german shephards in their kennel in his back yard. He was afraid they were going to get over the kennel fence and had to fire shots in the air to scare them off. I asked him if I could report it. I sent email which I also copied to all my legislators and a few others because I am proactive and because as an American I have that right under the 1st Amendment. I got a call from the Region 1 manager Steve Pozzanghera basically chewing me out for copying that message to my legislators. Then he goes on to tell me that it was coyotes. (typical WDFW response)

If my neighbor up the road would not have had a kennel around his dogs it's my guess he might have had to shoot those wolves (coyotes) to save his dogs. He would have been in deep trouble just like Bill White, but I would stand up for him as well, this is simply an injustice this whole wolf fiasco.

Anyway, I haven't seen Bill White in probably 20 years, but he was a good member of our community who volunteered his time to help others and I have heard and beleive he is a good member of the community where he lives now. The media and WDFW want to make an example of him, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a better person than most people have for their neighbors. Let me put it a different way, would you rather have Bill White or humanure for your neighbor? (I know that wasn't fair, shame on me)

The WDFW and legislators need to manup and change the law to take care of this wolf situation before it gets to the point that poaching is an accepted practice like what has happened in Idaho.  :twocents:
Well said bearpaw!!!!! :tup: :tup:
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #172 on: April 06, 2012, 08:33:10 PM »
We as in the world. Nice try, though.

 So WE as in the world, and YOU as in you damn ignorant hunters. Yeah got it,....now go away.

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #173 on: April 06, 2012, 08:40:16 PM »
I bet you the closest humamanure  has been to the wilderness is the median in his apatment parking lot.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #174 on: April 06, 2012, 09:23:06 PM »
I'll take that bet.
We would be better off to not have been, but since we're here, it's our responsibility to exist without standing in natures way, It is not in our DNA to mandatorily become environmentally destructive juggernauts!

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #175 on: April 07, 2012, 06:35:45 AM »
The man plead guilty to these charges there for he is now classified as a POACHER...a poacher is a poacher just like a spade is a spade...you can get into how good he is or how he was protecting his livestock who cares...if this guy was shooting 300 class bull elk out of his orchards you wouldn't be backing him..
So let me ask you a question.  Could you imagine how much money the whites have probably spent to date , in there defense?  What do the whites do for a living?  hmmm. Farmer's.  Last time I checked farmers make a living and it isn't to get rich let me tell you that.  So in the grand scheme of things What do you think it would have cost to go to court?  I believe  the whites plead guilty because in the end It would have cost everything they had to get out of this.  Wich I believe 100% they would have made out with no penalty's.  Like bear paw said the whites were and are very upstanding people of the community.  They help others and are great people to be around. 
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #176 on: April 07, 2012, 07:10:30 AM »
No body Perfect, People Choose what they want and We all learn mistakes, God forgive him because He want to change to better Person. Once Bill asked God to forgive him for whatever happen He did.  God listen and God will forget all what happen and He will be a good person for all of us.
No need to JUDGE agasint him. God and Law will.

Bill is a VERY VERY GOOD GUY. I will always be his best buddy.  I will ALWAYS GO HUNT, Camp, hiking, WITH HIM.


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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #177 on: April 07, 2012, 08:25:45 AM »
Holy smokes....log off for a day and look at you guys. 

Thanks Bearpaw for saying what you have said, and I enjoyed one of Kains posts too.

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Funny how they love civil disobedience when its a cause they believe in.   Well they got people on the hippy side destroying property, getting arrested for trespassing and all sort of other stuff.  Hell even had one set himself on fire and try to run into a fur store a couple years ago (door was locked...oops).  Now there are some extremists on the other side breaking laws for causes they believe in and here comes Johny Lawful keeping all of us on the righteous path.  A regular voice of reason. 


I think if I responded to some of these other posts, I'd get Carpal Tunnel.......

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #178 on: April 07, 2012, 09:10:59 AM »
As said, I'm pro-hunting but i can't help but laugh my ass off at hunters screaming "we are trying to save our herds!". Your not saving them if your trying to kill them. We get it, you don't like having to work harder for your kills, but at least be real about it istead of that sorry excuse that no one believes.

And BTW, I don't have sympathy for child rapists. I hope they die a slow, painful death. No rapist should be given a 2nd chance.
WOW! It sure was nice when you were not here, go have a sabbatical or whatever you trekkers call it. I am going to pound a mountain out after reading all this from humancrap.

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #179 on: April 07, 2012, 09:36:22 AM »
I have the guy blocked, but you guys keep reposting his inane comments.  Agree with bear paw.  It concerns me that we can not trust government    Too many laws, and not enough common sense and when a member of the house is paid 6 figures and gets an awesome pension on our dime, it hardly seems to me that they are representative of their constituents.  Then to have the present suggest that the supreme court has no business weighing in on laws created by congress!

Ok off the subject.   Sorry guys.
A 38k fine is probably a lot cheaper than going to court. 
Remember, our court system is designed to deal with bad people, they don't know how to work with people trying to do the right thing

I would have liked to see what jury of his peers would say.    Hmmm can you argue for a jury made up of farmers and hunters?

Old enough to know better.
Young enough to go for it.

 


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