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http://tdn.com/lifestyles/article_551bcd98-a8fd-11e0-9fc9-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story


Hunting access is taking a new twist in Southwest Washington as Rayonier starts selling permits for entry to its lands.

The company on Thursday announced a new hunting permit program for 46,000 acres near Grays River in Pacific County.

Though private timber companies like Rayonier have restricted access to their lands in recent years, they haven’t charged hunters they do let in.

"Hunting is going to become a rich man’s sport," said Vern Eaton of Longview, who has been active in hunting access groups. "I hate to see it come," he said.

Rayonier will sell 175 permits to enter its 31,000-acre Fossil Creek area from Aug. 15 through Dec. 31 for a flat $225.

Hunters also can bid for 30 entry permits to the 15,000-acre Salmon Creek area on Ebay. At the end of the bidding period, whoever has offered the most money will get the permit.

Hunters who get permits may bring a non-hunting companion.

For the past three years, Rayonier has been leasing parcels to groups of hunters. The bid levels for five leases in Grays Harbor County range from $1,317 for 567 acres to $4,124 for 4,615 acres. Clubs get exclusive use of the hunting areas for a year.

The Rayonier permit system brings a new phase to hunting access here.

Until about 10 years ago, hunters and other recreationists were welcome to camp on most private timberlands throughout the year.

Companies started closing their gates because of problems with timber theft, vandalism and garbage dumping. In recent years, most timber companies opened their gates during major hunting seasons -- but did not allow overnight camping.

Weyerhaeuser and the Department of Fish and Wildlife have collaborated on a program under which volunteers staff company gates so that special permit hunters can get in.

"We’ve been real fortunate here" with the Weyerhaeuser program, Eaton said.

However, hunting camps have migrated to state and federal land that’s still open.

A plus for hunters under the Rayonier permits is that camping and ATV use will be allowed for permit holders. Most other private timber companies don’t allow ATVs on their lands.

Rayonier still offers free public access for hunting, hiking and other recreation on 300,000 acres of its lands in Washington that aren’t leased or under the permit system. In Pacific County, more than 25,000 acres will still be open for free public access, according to a news release.

Though hunting permit systems are new in Southwest Washington, they’re common elsewhere in the country.

Paul Rice, a Rayonier official based in Florida, said nearly all of the company’s lands in the east are available to hunting only through leases.

"That’s not the approach we wanted to take in Washington," he said, because of its history of unrestricted access.

Rice said he isn’t aware of any other Washington timber companies with a permit system like Rayonier’s, though other companies are also trying to balance requests for recreation with the need to make a profit.

Rice said that in the future, Rayonier would like to offer another type of permit that doesn’t cost as much as the current $225 pass.

Future permits could resemble the state’s new Discover Pass, which costs $30, and "will have a lot of recreation opportunities, including hunting," he said.



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the begining of the end..........
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That must be part of that increased hunting access that the multiple new permit applications were going to generate for us.  Way to go WDFW and Rayonier. 

For what its worth, I don't really blame Rayonier.  Its their land.  I blame the @sshats that vandalize stuff, dump garbage, destroy roads, etc.

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This is tough news. One of the reasons I did the work to become a Master Hunter was to work with land owners to allow access to more private land for our state's hunters. Seeing this is really disappointing. Timber companies want a good public image to continue to do what they do with the public's support. If this trend continues, I see their public support waning when it's time to vote for timber-related issues.
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I have purchased the Hancock permit in the past.  Is the Fossil Creek area an area to hunt elk?  Hancock is for a family is it the same for Rayonier?
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woohoo i'm in, just so I have a place to ride my ATV. Hopefully with the money they generate they can hire some security and get the dumping stopped.

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http://tdn.com/lifestyles/article_551bcd98-a8fd-11e0-9fc9-001cc4c03286.html?mode=story
Rayonier will sell 175 permits to enter its 31,000-acre Fossil Creek area from Aug. 15 through Dec. 31 for a flat $225.

Hmm lets see.
Rayonier access to Fossil Creek for 31,000 acres for 4.5 months = $225
Hancock to access its Snoqualmie Tree Farm at 90,000 acres year round (except fire closures) = $225.

I'm sorry but it seems like Rayonier is really ripping off those people buying those permits.

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I think its good,I buy the hancock permit and no longer have the trash, the theft to worry about.Land  owners can only pick up after these pukes for so long.

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I give it 3 years before the Discover pass costs this much as well, along with whatever other access fees they dream up between now and then.  I'm all for paying my part to support everything, but this is going downhill fast.  $250 for hunting and fishing licenses and permit apps this year for myself.  Wife hunts, 3 sons soon will.  Add access fees on top of that and in a few years I'll need a 2nd job to afford everything.  But by then the wolves will have eaten all the game, so I'll have to find a new hobby anyway

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Dude I can not even read sheet like this ... we all know its coming and we still are doing nothen but reading about it ....The fricken government should step in and TAX THE LIVING FRAKEN CRAP OUT OF THEM !!!!!! and for those who have money to spend on this type of hunting are setting the stage for disaster ...and I would never support such bullsheet knowing it is going again my fellow hunters and its now taking the meaning out of what hunting is all about ... So if you go an support these dumba$$$$$$ please do not come bragging to me about it .... THIS IS BS !!!!! >:( >:(

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Dude I can not even read sheet like this ... we all know its coming and we still are doing nothen but reading about it ....The fricken government should step in and TAX THE LIVING FRAKEN CRAP OUT OF THEM !!!!!! and for those who have money to spend on this type of hunting are setting the stage for disaster ...and I would never support such bullsheet knowing it is going again my fellow hunters and its now taking the meaning out of what hunting is all about ... So if you go an support these dumba$$$$$$ please do not come bragging to me about it .... THIS IS BS !!!!! >:( >:(

Unfortunately Bowhunter there are a lot of people that are willing to spend this much or more to hunt timberland. The Snoqualmie Tree Farm sold out it's 800 permits at $225 a piece in about 2.5-3 months. White River has sold about 600 of it's 800 permits at $225. And Kapowsin as we all know sells out it's 1,000-1,200 permits depending on the year at $300-350 a piece in about a month. I know some people who have several of these permits.

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there are a lot of people that are willing to spend this much or more to hunt timberland

I think my only real concern is that there is a big difference between "willing to" and "capable of".  It just seems to me that the days of throwing your kids in the truck and heading out for a weekend of hunting are almost long gone unless you are ready to fork out hefty access fees.

Not arguing with you at all bigtex.  Just stating my opinion that I don't think these access fees affect everyone the same.

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The $/acre is really not bad when you look at what places cost outside of Washington.  I would be willing to bet that if Rayonier managed their herds for the BC/PY/trophy hunter crowd, and had a lot of 'big' animals, that they could charge over a grand for the same permits and sell out even faster.  Their are a lot of ranches where hunting brings in more money now than cattle.  I wouldn't doubt that a tree farm could do the same.

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its private land.....sure lets get the government involved..then if I owned the land there would be zero access...hunt the public land its still there.I save a bunch of money hunting close to home and get my firewood there,how many would let the public access  your property? how many farmers and ranchers let the public come and go as they please...these are farms,and they have many many problems with people that just dont give a crap...

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Well said rasbo.  I know if I owned land, it would just be me, some family and a few friends.  Other than that...a giant wall with barb wire, lasers, pit bulls, land mines, etc. 

 


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