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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2011, 01:48:00 PM »
Exactly.  Is there a platform available to us (or anyone for that matter) where we can get these concerns out there?  People seem to have no problem filing lawsuits regarding wolves, what's to stop the same type of process for caribou?  Is there anything in writing from WDFW as to how they plan on addressing the wolves impact on caribou, and if not - how do we demand that from them?  I don't think they have the luxury of just taking a mulligan on this one, but I also don't think anything will be done unless we start making some serious noise right now

I am told we have a problem with trying to manage wolves in that Washington law does not allow the impacts to other animals, livestock, pets, or humans to be considered when managing endangered species.

I like your thoughts CedarPants on filing a lawsuit to save the caribou. After all these years of working to save this last caribou herd it is a shame to just throw them to the wolves (pun intended). I will send out an email to some people who more than I do, and ask if that would be possible to do. If I found out anything good, I will let everyone know.  :tup:
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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2011, 01:53:54 PM »
Excellent Bearpaw, thank you!  I think you see my point that I'm certainly not looking at this from a "hugger" standpoint (for lack of a better term).  More so from a letter of the law and an accountability standpoint.  Thanks again for looking into this!

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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2011, 01:59:40 PM »
I'm no hugger either, but its a shame to throw away the last caribou herd in the lower 48 to protect an animal that shouldn't even be on the endangered species list. Something should be done to protect these caribou.
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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2011, 02:00:11 PM »
mr cedar pants, I belive you may have a sliver in your panties, I am not singling anyone person out. I am saying that if you use the group out of PL for caribou advocacy that it WILL hurt all recreationalist aside from the purist for of tree huggers. I meant nothing more than to say a group does exist, and they are a pain in the ass.

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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2011, 02:01:42 PM »
bearpaw, I totally agree, but closing off the trapper burn during the winter makes no sense at all. kepping wolves and grizz out of the relativly small fragile area the bou' are said to inhabit does make sense.

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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2011, 02:09:02 PM »
Duly noted HighCountry.  Again, still on your side here, and don't talk about my panties unless you buy me a drink first  :chuckle:

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Re: The End For Endangered Caribou?
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2011, 08:57:23 AM »
bearpaw, I totally agree, but closing off the trapper burn during the winter makes no sense at all. kepping wolves and grizz out of the relativly small fragile area the bou' are said to inhabit does make sense.

No worries, I think we are all on the same page.  :tup:
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