Hanford Bulls

[PlateauNDN]

Ok Max let me tell you how it is and not how someone interprets it. At one time you were able to get a permit with your name on it that said you could kill one buck and one bull for your family on the rez. They stopped that about ten years ago. You could possibly get one depending on who her family is connected to. You may assist in hunting and gathering of traditional foods but need a permit to access the closed area, the permit states on it you may not carry a firearm. I dint need to look that up because I know what it says.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Good luck getting authorized.  Last year even a Tribal Member was not able to carry a firearm if a permit holder in the vehicle.

Keep reading further down YakNDN in that same section.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

I picked up the current regulations guidebook from the Wildlife Office and they also informed me it was on their website as well.  Everything regarding Wildlife I ask the Program Manager or the Wildlife Biologist Jim.  Those are the only two (2) people I talk to over there because they are the ones with the answers.

[boneaddict]

On a slight different note, do you guys have to have this damn Discover pass thing when on Ceded ground.  Just curious because I hate the thing.   

[Yak-NDN]

No disrespect to you Plat I am not punctual enough to get into a typing war with you. Just thought I would let max know what was up before he got busted for killing something on the rez.

[PlateauNDN]

Ok Max let me tell you how it is and not how someone interprets it. At one time you were able to get a permit with your name on it that said you could kill one buck and one bull for your family on the rez. They stopped that about ten years ago. You could possibly get one depending on who her family is connected to. You may assist in hunting and gathering of traditional foods but need a permit to access the closed area, the permit states on it you may not carry a firearm. I dint need to look that up because I know what it says.

Subsection (A)  It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:

(2)  Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or to assist him or her in exercising such rights.

Good luck getting authorized.  Last year even a Tribal Member was not able to carry a firearm if a permit holder in the vehicle.

Keep reading further down YakNDN in that same section.

Subsection (C)  This Section shall not apply to any non-member identified as:

(1)  The spouse, dependent (including adopted or foster), or extended family relative of the Yakama Member;

I picked up the current regulations guidebook from the Wildlife Office and they also informed me it was on their website as well.  Everything regarding Wildlife I ask the Program Manager or the Wildlife Biologist Jim.  Those are the only two (2) people I talk to over there because they are the ones with the answers.

No Bone we do not need a discover pass and that is a direct quote from the Program Manager of the YN Wildlife Office.  YakNDN the reason why I know what it states is because I had a lengthy conversation with the Program Manager about what OUR regs. state.  My sister has a boyfriend that is not a member and she asked me so I went looking for answers so she does not do anything stupid with him since he himself is a hunter and they went hunting this past weekend trying to fill his spike tag (he's Coville).

Deciphering text and the comprehension of it is what I deal with on an almost daily basis so when I have conversations with the said people above I'm going to have them knowing full well what it states. 

[boneaddict]

NOW I'm jealous.     Thanks Plat. 

[Yak-NDN]

On a slight different note, do you guys have to have this damn Discover pass thing when on Ceded ground.  Just curious because I hate the thing.

No we are not required to have the Discover Pass. I didn't have to ask anyone I know our history.
Jim is half your problem on your info he is a nice old guy but dam people think he is the law and he decides what we can and cant do.

[PlateauNDN]

On a slight different note, do you guys have to have this damn Discover pass thing when on Ceded ground.  Just curious because I hate the thing.

No we are not required to have the Discover Pass. I didn't have to ask anyone I know our history.
Jim is half your problem on your info he is a nice old guy but dam people think he is the law and he decides what we can and cant do.

Okay Yak this is how I will break it down for you.  I handle contract compliance within the Tribe and deciphering and comprehending context is what I pretty much do on a daily basis.  I read, write and review contracts and also make sure the contract is being complied with. 

If it's on paper then I'm going to get my hands on it and tear it apart, break it down and look at it from every angle and start compiling my questions way before I start looking for the correct interpretation.  When I spoke with the Program Manager about the Discover Pass and the Non-Member access I already had my questions and answers that I had interpreted and compared them to his knowledge of the information since it is his job to monitor and make sure everybody is in compliance with OUR hunting regs.

The time I spoke with Jim was in referrence to the Hanford ALE area and what has transpired.  If you want the answer then you go to the ones that have to have the answers because it's their job to know, understand and enforce OUR Treaty Rights and regulations.

I don't know what you do for a living Yak but I'm pretty good at what I do and I take a lot of pride in my work because it helps OUR People.

[Yak-NDN]

Just got off the Phone with my people and ya just like I said it depends on who you know. And the old law and order book had stated that you could hunt for a one month span Oct-Nov. That section has been taken out of the revised law and order book that is in affect in some people's mind and not in others. I am going to get me a copy tonight. Their has been a few permits handed out to a select few people thru Tribal Council. Like I said good luck getting authorized But if plat's sister's (boyfriend) got a permit you should have no problem being a spouse. Hope you have better luck than the 20 spouse's I know that don't know the correct  person.

[Yak-NDN]

Yes Plat we all see you are good and take pride in what you do. And yes you are a big asset to our Tribe.  I just don't like you to sell our rights short because that is how you read it on paper. A wile back you stated that some park on the west side was out of our area. Not saying Im going to go kill the bull they were talking about. But the difference between what you read and real life is different. I fish and crab the Puget sound all the time been stopped by state game dep many times. I have never had a problem but the way you read it we cant go that far. Its like you don't know the laws and boundaries and ask people like Jim, and you read and learn as you go without having any real life history or experience.

[colockumelk]

I read, write and review contracts and also make sure the contract is being complied with. 

U must not bee good at your job. Beekuzz U R a Marine and we all no Marines cant reed or rite good.   

[Maverick]

Indians being the greedy people they are they can't leave anything alone. All the land they can hunt all year long and its not good enough. nope they have to have hanford too. Who cares if your ancestors hunted there. They didn't use guns when they did it so why should the tribe be able to now? They also didn't have motor vehicles and electricity. Nope that all came from the white man. So instead of the tribes thinking they don't have enough and need more places to hunt be happy with what yall got.

This may be the most offensive and stupidest post in this whole disaster. 

Why is that stupid? Was anything there not true? Can Indians hunt all year? Yes. Is all the hunting grounds they have not good enough so they're trying to hunt hanford too? Yes. Back when they're ancestors hunted all this land did they use guns and drive motor vehicles? No. So if they are going to hunt everywhere all year like they're ancestors then why not do it just like their ancestors ? no guns. Grab a spear or bow and start hiking. The very least they could do is buy a fricken discovery pass. Why are we all paying for everything and they don't have to pay for squat?

[coachcw]

I cheerish my right to hunt and enjoy quallity hunts . I have no problem buying permits and passes and applying for raffle tags it a pay to play world . I'd like to see some of the revenue generated by tribal casinos go to wards game management and not just tribal enforcement . Plat please tell me if I'm wrong in saying that the tribes dont give money to suport the game species . one said that he dosn't hunt reservation or there ceeded land , could you elaborate why not ? I know other tribes do and have had great sucess in managing there herds. why should on demographic group pay to protect there right to hunt and substain the game on state land while the other side just fights for there right to harvest the game ? please forgive my spelling and no i'm not a Marine.

[biggdogg]

Coyote hunter i don't know if you have been following all the threads about indians hunting but what u said has been repeated about a 100 times and about greed non indians are just as greedy probably a tad bit more, I am happy for what i got a reservation a whole lot of ceded land 

[biggdogg]

Today i talked to guy out at hanford shooting the bulls( he also shot a cow and a calf) but from what i understood  is the farmers get  damage control tags and do they sell them? From what he said he shot a bull near some private property and they were just as pissed because that's one less damage control elk that gets be shot of their property. If I remember right for that same reason is why one of our tribal members was held at gun point because he was down by prosser some where and shot a buck that was part of some ranchers selling hunts to tag holders. He went to court and won so why don't we hear a bunch of crap talked about how crooked that system is, but i do not know if the property damage tag thing is true so some more info on that would help.

[biggdogg]

Yak i agree with u on the spouse hunting and that same thing goes along with a lot of other things its not who u r its who u know. I believe they shouldn't  be able to hunt the rez it's not like they couldn't get some meat from the people who kill more than their fair share of deer and elk. Kind of sucks talking about hunting and not being able to it working 60 to 70 hours a week got to have hunt washington.com time oh i almost forgot family time