putting your dog out to stud ?

[gaddy]

ran into a lady today as i was leaving my hiking trail along the river. she had a female chock lab & seeing my male & female chock labs asked if i breed them. when i told her no the female is fixed she said hers (actually her sons dog) was not & asked if i would be interested in breeding theirs. my male not me! she figured with the prices labs are going for there was money to be made. i had never thought about it before & was wondering is there an average stud fee ? any thoughts ?

[gasman]

Careful now, this is a touchy subject many breeders. You may get some flack for even bringing this up. Just a warning to you now.....

Average cost of stud fee is pick of the litter or price of a pup.

Unless you have a dog that has its Certs. then it goes up a bit form there. Depending on teh certs , back ground, and titles tha the dog has.

I studed out my Buddy to a friend and he charged $400 a pup. I either received teh cash or the pup, my choice. This last time, I gave the pick of the litter to my best friend (huntlakewood) and got him self an awsome pup that is going to be a HOG 
Hope thsi helps.

[YellowDog]

Based on my limited knowledge, stud fees are all over the place.  Can range from a few hundred dollars to thousands of dollars, pick of the litter, etc.  Whatever you do, make sure you have all of the health clearances, know the pedigrees of both, and ask yourself if you are doing it to make a quick $300-$500 or what the motivation is.  The health clearances alone will cost you a couple hundred dollars probably.  There are lots of dogs out there that are great dogs, hunters, etc. that really shouldn't be bred just to make a quick buck.   

[gaddy]

any info is great. like i said i had not even thought about it untill approched.

[akirkland]

People approach me ALL THE TIME about my male. They all want to breed to him. Everyone always says he is the best looking and biggest choc lab they have ever seen. The funny thing is i have always been polite and gave them my info. All i want in return is pick of the litter ( that is how i got Drake to begin with). Have i gotten a call from one of those people? Hell no! I would be suprised if you got a call either. Alot of the time people are just flakes! One day i will breed him for a pup. He, like most of your dogs is your best friend and the best huntin dog you have ever had. I want his legacy to live on. Right now is not the time though. Three labs is a bit much. Especially with the horses and friggin cats. My advice to you is if you do breed him, make sure you have a written contract. Good luck.

[Happy Gilmore]

ran into a lady today as i was leaving my hiking trail along the river. she had a female chock lab & seeing my male & female chock labs asked if i breed them. when i told her no the female is fixed she said hers (actually her sons dog) was not & asked if i would be interested in breeding theirs. my male not me! she figured with the prices labs are going for there was money to be made. i had never thought about it before & was wondering is there an average stud fee ? any thoughts ?

What color do you think you'll get?

[Caseyd]

Chocolate with a possibility of yellow 

[Happy Gilmore]

Chocolate with a possibility of yellow 

It actually is an extremely important question when it comes to breeding chocolates. Bad breeding practices are one reason Chocolates are more likely to have issues.

Research chocolate lab coloring and genotypes BEFORE considering or thinking it is a good idea. I won't even comment on health clearances in this thread because it is the LEAST important issue at hand when talking about chocolate labs if you think breeding Chocolate to Chocolate is right because of their coat color.

I had wrote more about the subject and erased it- no point in ranting about it.

[BIGINNER]

this is a good thread actually,  i was thinking about looking into this,...  i wanted to stud out my dog,.. not anytime soon, maybe in a year or two,  and the soul reason i want to stud him out is because i want a pup or two that (hopefully) have his size and the fact that he is a crazy hunter is a plus.  i have never seen a weimaraner the size of mine,.. so i definately want a puip from him. 

but the only problem,.. is that my dog has no papers, (rescue dog)  do you guys think that this would be a definate turn off for people?

[PlateauNDN]

Research and study everything you can about your dogs breed, genes and lineage.  Any person that is serious about breeding their female with your male will ask you right off the back if he has papers, or for his lineage.  To serious breeders that is a must.  They want to know the bloodline of you dog before they consider breeding their female.  I was really into Alaskan Malamutes and Rottweilers back in the day and I didn't even consider a pup unless I was allowed to at least see a picture and papers of the breeding pair.

I got that from my uncle who used to stud out his male rottweiler for $500 and the pick of the litter.  Everybody that requested his "best friends" services ask for his papers and entrusted their females to him for at least a week while they did their business.

"Contract!"  Make sure and have one if you're serious because verbal commitments only go so far and if everything isn't put into a contract as far as costs, liability and arrangements of payment then they can really stick you with a lot of liability if their not the honest type.

Other than that be careful and hope everything works out for you.

[huntlakewood]

Careful now, this is a touchy subject many breeders. You may get some flack for even bringing this up. Just a warning to you now.....

Average cost of stud fee is pick of the litter or price of a pup.

Unless you have a dog that has its Certs. then it goes up a bit form there. Depending on teh certs , back ground, and titles tha the dog has.

I studed out my Buddy to a friend and he charged $400 a pup. I either received teh cash or the pup, my choice. This last time, I gave the pick of the litter to my best friend (huntlakewood) and got him self an awsome pup that is going to be a HOG 
Hope thsi helps.

Going to be he already is he looks like his Grandpa Gasman 
No really he is a good pup so far. Wifes mad though cause he dont like to cuddle

[gaddy]

thanks for all the reply's. very insightfull. what sounded so simple ended up way to complicated for me. contracts ? certs ? ect.. no really, the wife & i decided we dont need a pup & we dont want to be responsable for putting out any pups that could be prone to problems to unsuspecting people to pay for. i liked yellowdogs statement about great dogs that should'nt be bred for a quick buck. so true. as i said i had'nt even thought about this till approached, and wont again. thanks everyone  -GAD-

[Happy Gilmore]

thanks for all the reply's. very insightfull. what sounded so simple ended up way to complicated for me. contracts ? certs ? ect.. no really, the wife & i decided we dont need a pup & we dont want to be responsable for putting out any pups that could be prone to problems to unsuspecting people to pay for. i liked yellowdogs statement about great dogs that should'nt be bred for a quick buck. so true. as i said i had'nt even thought about this till approached, and wont again. thanks everyone  -GAD-

If you have a great dog with everything there isn't anything wrong with considering breeding the dog. To be a responsible breeder, checking hips, eyes and EIC and CNM is the STANDARD minimum recognized health clearances by ALL good breeders for labs. Doesn't mean you are going to charge $1000 for the dog but, you can and should certainly expect a bit more money. The thing here is, there are wonderful, long time, super responsible breeders putting out excellent dogs which are going to cost around $500-600. Why in the world, anyone would pay $400 for a dog with no papers and no attempt at a responsible breeding is beyond me. Research and talking to people goes a very, very long way.

My sister has gotten two(don't ask me why she got the second) labs from a fairly popular chocolate lab breeder who advertises in the Tri-Cities all the time. The first dog had hip dyslasia at 5 years old then got hit by a car. She got another(much to my dismay) from the same guy not long after and has the dog to this day. It is running the same path. 7 years old and fairly hobbled up. I cannot believe she did that but, she's my sister and I love her so, I don't say anything about it. Learn from experience I guess. She finally gets it after I've been preaching at her for the last 7 years.

So, save $200 and get a dog with a shortened life span and quality of life or, pay a few bucks more for a dog you'll have for many years. To me, it is a no-brainer. With that being said, I've grown up with mutts, no pedigree all my life and they lived long and great lives. As purebreds, they become prone to issues and cutting off those issues or minimizing issues before they can manifest in a breeding is the goal of a devoted breeder.

I held off on breeding my female for another heat cycle because I didn't get her hip and elbow results back early enough. I thought about risking it but, it goes against everything I preach so, I didn't. They came back good. We're getting some additional health clearances now which are outside of the normal testing for Chessies but, I'm going to be as responsible as possible to try to make sure that people who get a dog from me, get a top rate, first class product at an as-good or better price than anywhere else. My goal with that is to be able to select people and have a waiting list to make sure my pups are homed to people who are going to give my dogs what they deserve. A family, training, birds and care. I can only hope that my dedication to my choosen breed is recognized by folks interested and reflects my passion for these dogs.

You wanna see me get pissed off, tell me about the wife who wants to breed a dog so her kids can experience something giving birth! I've heard that one WAY too many times. Give the woman a pigeon or something.....

[LCRetrievers]

Not only do people need to think about all of the health certs, but also if you run into problems.  I have a litter ready to go home, I won't make any money on this litter due to economy and the cost of a c-section and size of litter,  I dropped my price to send them home by six hundred dollars.  When you breed you can't worry about the money, only do it to produce quality dogs. I'm just happy one of my pups is going to Nebraska to run field trials.