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how the shiras moose came to be?
« on: June 17, 2008, 08:20:09 PM »
as an avid student of the American west and exploration, i have noticed that there is no real mention of moose in the old diairies and journals of the trappers and such. not even lewis and clarke, who were very fastidious in their zoological and botanical observations.. did shiras moose migrate south from alberta and sask and bc? and if they did, why are the body and horn confirmations so much different than canada moose, alaskan yukon moose, etc etc? 
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 08:21:03 PM »
they are a cross between an alaska yukon moose and a blacktail.
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 08:38:53 PM »
thats not funny! :)

really tho.. any ideas?
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2008, 09:46:20 AM »
I never knew there wasn't really an historical account of them.  I would assume it is just a biological adaptation to their enviroment :dunno: 

I guess the only 1 that knows is the guy who knows how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.  Sorry.... Jack started it.  :chuckle:

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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2008, 09:56:56 AM »
It appears they were not even classified until 1914 as a seperate sub-family.
Their is historical records of Moose from the Algonquian (North American Indian) dating back centuries.

Still not finding any mention of how they came about to be a different classification though.......
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 09:59:33 AM »
micro evoloution
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 10:55:17 AM »
There is nothing micro about a moose. :)

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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2008, 11:56:05 AM »
the real question is, which one tastes better? :chuckle:

  I would assume it is just a biological adaptation to their enviroment :dunno: 


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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2008, 05:10:26 PM »
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Their is historical records of Moose from the Algonquian (North American Indian) dating back centuries.


moose maybe, but not shiras moose, right? probably a canada moose?
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2008, 06:27:31 PM »
It says Moose in the America.  They were not classified as a different specias from the Manitoba Mosse until 1914.  I cannot find anything about why they are different causing them to be classified as Shiras.............

Anyone else find anything??
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2008, 06:33:27 PM »
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the real question is, which one tastes better?

I actually prefer Yukon Moose to Alaska Yukon moose and I prefer both of those to the Shiras Moose.

I never eaten Canadian Newfoundland Moose.
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Re: how the shiras moose came to be?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 06:43:55 PM »
they are a cross between an alaska yukon moose and a blacktail.


 I thought that was funny  :chuckle:

 But thats a interesting question.

 


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