fishing deep with weight restrictions and proper fish handling ?

[Coasthunterjay]

I am learning alot of new methods of fishing. not sure if everyone nows this, because i didnt......... In the past few days i learned that after catching a fish that it is very hard on a fish to grab them by there gill plates, specially if you rub up against there gills......very bad......and also learned that i need to be more careful about how i handle them all together, because fish are fragile......as my mom would say, "BREAKABLES".......lol........

this all together is kind of cool, because i always thought of fish as being a really strong slimmy thing that i would like to catch more of......just man handle and throw back in the water.........so i can say ill deffinantly aproach fish differently.

But im also learning how to catch or fish for alot of different fish that i have never fished for differently.........

In western washington there are alot of regualations on most the lakes, and a few have weight regs, like crescent......

i am wanting to fish deep, but keep all my gear far away from what ever i am fishing with thats getting my gear low.....the problem is i can only use 2 ounces of lead to get it low........

WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO GET MY GEAR LOW? and be able to keep my lure far away from what is getting me down there?

can anyone help? and if anyone else has any pointers on taking care of or handling fish that would be great.......all the pointers are appriciated!

[Dman]

 Use lead core line.

[Coasthunterjay]

how much deeper would lead core line actually get me? maybe 10 ft?

[Dman]

 I believe you can use the 2 oz. weight in addition to the lead core, together you should be able to get down over 100' easy with the heavier guage lead core and you can use a diving type plug like a Rapala.

[Coasthunterjay]

only problem is i can only use 2 ounces of assisted weight......so lead core line, plus 2 ounces and see where i go from there.......

if anyone else has an idea let me know.....i need to get around the 90 ft deep area.........

[MIKEXRAY]

Downriggers. I bought a couple for my boat for salmon fishing from my buddy but use them all the time for trout, kokanee in plenty of lakes. I saw joes had some smaller Cannon " lake troll " models (manual) on sale for $ 99 ea ( reg $ 129 or 139). I even use them when I want my lure to run 30 - 40 ft down, I used to use divers etc but now I just bring the downriggers always. Nice to put the bait at exact depth. Also once the rigger pops, theres no diver, lead line etc to take away from the fight. Those lake trolls clamp right on the side wall of you boat.

I HATE GUYS THAT DON'T READ THE POST CLOSELY AND THEN GIVE THEIR ADVICE LIKE THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. OBVIOUSLY IF THE GUY COULD USE DOWN RIGGERS HE WOULDN'T OF POSTED THE ?. I OUGHT
TO GO TO FEDERAL WAY AND KICK MIKE XRAYS ASS.    MIKE. 

[MuleySniper]

Sounds like you need some downriggers.  I'm not sure what test line you use, but I mooch for salmon with 12 lb. line and 2 oz lead and get down  no problem. Not sure how that will work trolling though.
MS

[Alchase]

If you are trolling, you will not be able to get down much further then 45 -50 max with leadcore. I stole this from another site:
"12 leadcore with rapala can achieve a max depth ( all colors out ) of around 30-35 feet deep depending upon speed. 15 - 27 lb leadcore will depend upon how much you can fit on your reel. One way to achieve a greater depth without using heavier leadcore is to use some of today's bass crankbaits. With some crankbaits on the market breaking the 20 foot barrier with monofilament, leadcore can achieve a greater depth. I have found the following baits to work great when I need to get down there - Bill Normans DD 22, Manns 15+, 20+, Rapala Risto Raps, and that's just to name a few." 

Adding two ounces of weight can get you probably around 55-65 "while trolling" depending on how much line you put out and how fast you troll. At best your line will be around 45 deg of the back. Two hundred feet out at 45 deg is down 100 feet. Then at depth pressure bends it out flat agian. In reality it takes allot of weight to keep your bait at 90 - 100 feet.

[Alchase]

Sounds like you need some downriggers.  I'm not sure what test line you use, but I mooch for salmon with 12 lb. line and 2 oz lead and get down  no problem. Not sure how that will work trolling though.
MS

IF you have current to work with, I would do as MuleySniper suggests and troll vertically while mooching, allowing the current to provide trolling speed. Let your bait to sink to around 100 feet and jig it while slowely retreaving.
This covers both horizontal and vertical planes.

[jackelope]

downriggers are illegal where he wants to fish deep...

lead core or wire line if you can find it and afford it, and 2oz should do it...or vertical jig them up maybe.??

[boneaddict]

Virtually impossible to troll at that depth with those restrictions.  Jiggin it would be your best or as Jack and I plan to do someday.  Chironimid with a long leader.  

[MIKEXRAY]

I guess I didn't read the post closely enough the first time about the weight restriction, sorry. Jigging seems like the way. Or use the downriggers and paint a 2 ounce on your rigger ball 

[popeshawnpaul]

Hire a guide to take you out one day.  Copy what he does.  There are some huge cutts in there...

[jackelope]

Hire a guide to take you out one day.  Copy what he does.  There are some huge cutts in there...

x2....learning that way is priceless IMO.
go back and do exactly what he did whenever you feel like it.

[Dman]

 If I can hit bottom in current in the Sound with 3oz, you can definitely hit 90 feet with leadcore and 2oz weight. I know this is how a couple locals do very well up there, if I can find the article I'll scan it for you. Slow, slow, slow. A plug trolls well at slow speeds. Jigging is also worth a try but trolling will work, though these guys put days in for each fish, it's not a fishery that lends itself to impatience.