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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2011, 08:28:53 PM »
I bleed but don't bother gutting, the gut cavity is sealed and as long as it is on ice or cold has no effect on the meat quality.  Plus there's more for crab bait that way.

I brine with 50/50 soy  and water, add about a third cup brown sugar per cup of soy.  Sometimes will add chopped garlic and black pepper.  Brine overnight is enough, put on racks, sprinkle onion and garlic powder and then smoke.  I use the same brine for prepping to grill salmon and prawns as well.

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2011, 08:48:45 PM »
I have eaten so much smoked pinks I am sick and tired of them.  I gave way 5 -1 gallon zip lock bags full of smoked salmon last week. 
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2011, 09:41:00 PM »
you guys got a smoking or brine recipe for pinks you would be willing to share?

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2011, 06:50:46 AM »
My brine is real easy, 3 to 1. 3 cups brown sugar to one cup kosher salt. mix dry brine, and coat flesh of fish. brine for 12-24hrs. before smoking, slightly rinse the salt off fish, pat dry, then let it sit for about 2 hrs. This gives it a tacky surface, and seals the meat so there is no white fat that comes through the top.(this is critical if you want to store the smoked fish. If you see white on top of smoked salmon, it wont keep for long and you can get sick). set in smoker at 180deg, for about 4 hours.
I use hickery, apple, alder, and or cherry. NEVER use misquete while smoking. This gives a metalic tinge in the meat just from the smoke.
When its done, if its not cooked all the way, i will set it in the oven to finish. If you let it cool, then put it in the fridge for about 10 hrs, the brown sugar really starts to push out of the meat, and is ready to eat. If you vac seal, it gets better with all the pressure pushing the smoke deeper into the fish.

Everyone is diffrent on their variation, this works great for me, family, and friends.
I had people think the pinks are silvers, and small kings, but its all salmon, THE OTHER PINK MEAT!
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2011, 08:28:24 AM »
I ate a few and smoked a bunch.  They ate REALLY well and the last batch I smoked was the best fish I've ever made.  I don't know if it was the fish or the fact that I happened to cook them perfectly (I'll admit to mostly luck rather than skill) but they turned out awesome.  I'm almost afraid to make more because I'm not sure I can repeat it...

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2011, 09:32:51 AM »
I pulled a pink or two out of the Carbon over the weekend ... put them in tin foil, put on some bacon salt and honey mustard

WAY freakin' good that way.

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2011, 09:59:30 AM »
....pat dry, then let it sit for about 2 hrs. This gives it a tacky surface, and seals the meat so there is no white fat that comes through the top.(this is critical if you want to store the smoked fish. If you see white on top of smoked salmon, it wont keep for long and you can get sick).....
 
....NEVER use misquete while smoking. This gives a metalic tinge in the meat just from the smoke....
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Is that why all the recipes say to pat & let dry to a glaze? I didnt know it would stop the white fat stuff and help it keep longer. I always vac pack mine but it doesnt last very long so I havent had any go bad - that was vacuum packed at least.
 
I have only used mesquite once and it was for beef jerky. I didnt notice any "tinge" and I dont think it was as strong smoke flavor as say apple, alder, or hickory, so I dont plan on using it again for that reason. My neighbor cut down an apple tree last year and gave me a bag full of trunk chunks so I have been using that - just chip/shave with a hatchet and it works great!
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2011, 10:06:42 AM »
I think the tacky surface that developes after a bit of air drying simply helps capture a bit of smoke and flavor. Never had a problem with the fat.

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2011, 10:35:40 AM »
My Mother in-Law made up the pinks I caught and WOW! They were very good. I am not a big Salmon eater but they were the best salmon I had ever ate! I even put back a Top Sirloin steak to have more room in my tummy for pink salmon. I was not expecting much as I have heard many time Pinks are nasty unless smoked. I did not find this true! :drool:
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2011, 11:06:45 AM »
hey it's better than tilapia and pollock. doesn't have the flavor other slamon have but it's good fish.

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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2011, 12:09:50 PM »
I think the tacky surface that developes after a bit of air drying simply helps capture a bit of smoke and flavor. Never had a problem with the fat.

It seals it, not allowing the white fat to come through. The fat on fish once its cooked can turn bad real quick. This keeps the fat inside, or between the skin, and is sealed. The drying stage explains it on the link.
heres the link i have been using, but i dont use the brine recipe.(just finnished the Brisket this morning! YUM)
http://www.smoking-meat.com/july-2010-smoking-salmon.html
« Last Edit: September 26, 2011, 12:18:00 PM by longknife »
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2011, 12:29:55 PM »
....pat dry, then let it sit for about 2 hrs. This gives it a tacky surface, and seals the meat so there is no white fat that comes through the top.(this is critical if you want to store the smoked fish. If you see white on top of smoked salmon, it wont keep for long and you can get sick).....
 
....NEVER use misquete while smoking. This gives a metalic tinge in the meat just from the smoke....
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Is that why all the recipes say to pat & let dry to a glaze? I didnt know it would stop the white fat stuff and help it keep longer. I always vac pack mine but it doesnt last very long so I havent had any go bad - that was vacuum packed at least.
 
I have only used mesquite once and it was for beef jerky. I didnt notice any "tinge" and I dont think it was as strong smoke flavor as say apple, alder, or hickory, so I dont plan on using it again for that reason. My neighbor cut down an apple tree last year and gave me a bag full of trunk chunks so I have been using that - just chip/shave with a hatchet and it works great!

Sealed in vac bags wont allow it to go bad. If you take too much out, or dont vac seal, the air allows bacteria to form on the fat, and thats where it will start to mold first.
I watch alot of cooking shows(married w/3 kids), and Alton Brown, from the food network channel highly insists on no mesquite for smoking.(watched a show where he smoked a pork shoulder) When i used to use it, i would notice the tinge. Very light, but first bites, i could tell. JMO

I also dont gut my fish til i filet them. I will keep my bellys whole.Smoked belly meat is my golden egg of smoked salmon! Loaded in oils! I will cut the rib bonesoff with the filet running knife down backbone, then flip the fish, and repeat running knife down the spine. The filet will be whole, both sides, and belly. I will take a knife, and cut the rib bones out, then cut the belly to where the filet is the same thickness. (know where the thinner piece of meat always is done before the 1" thick centers). T
« Last Edit: September 26, 2011, 12:47:17 PM by longknife »
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2011, 12:32:28 PM »
I was talking to this gal here at work and she pats & dries til it glazes too but says with the pinks being so oily/fatty she will still get the fat on the surface just not as much. I used to do it years ago when I 1st started but soon after just skipped that step. Guess I'll have to try it again. I always trim the filets really well and cut out all the belly fat meat. This year, on a tip from FC, I started to skin them too before cooking/smoking and not only are they less oily they dont have as much 'fishy' taste to them either. But I dont like salmon at all unless smoked so I dont eat any of them, pink, nook... none.
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2011, 12:35:39 PM »
I smoked about 4 fish a few weeks ago and was too lazy to vac seal them :bdid:  I just put them in gal zip lock bags and in about 10days they were moldy & bad.   :puke:     
 
 I wont do that again....  :DOH:
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Re: Pinks it's whats for dinner or smoker?????
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2011, 01:27:24 PM »
Smoked fish freezes up nicely after vacuum packing.

 


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