I might possibly be the worst hunter in the history of hunting

[runamuk]

First and foremost there are no green dot roads on Weyerhauser land.  Second, just because a Weyerhauser gate is open does not mean you can drive thru it.  Again people this is simple, call the hotline, select the area that you are in and LISTEN to the message.  Since August 1st. No vehicle access has been allowed due to fire danger.  If there are non Weyerhauser employees behind Weyerhauser gates they are breaking the rules as of August 1st.

ummm weyerhauser has green dot signs at
 gates..open for vehicles...yellow dot signs at gates for open sometimes and red dot signs at gates for walk in only...this is the system in place all over grays harbor and mason counties 

[Hunter Dug]

ummm weyerhauser has green dot signs at
 gates..open for vehicles...yellow dot signs at gates for open sometimes and red dot signs at gates for walk in only...this is the system in place all over grays harbor and mason counties 
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Runamuk you are absolutly right and I am wrong; however last year these signs were not posted during the early archery season in the Saint Helens tree farm area I was hunting.  My point is the hotline has to be utilized had he called the hotline prior to his trip every day he would have none that the area was closed to vehicle traffic, and as I said before just because a gate is open does not mean it is open for public access.  This is mandatory this time year with the heat, and knowing they close these areas every year.  Unfortunitly the green dot sign had not been change in his situation.  There are ways to determine the out come you just have to utilize them ALLLLLLL, yes a pain in the rear but very necessary up there. 

[runamuk]

ummm weyerhauser has green dot signs at
 gates..open for vehicles...yellow dot signs at gates for open sometimes and red dot signs at gates for walk in only...this is the system in place all over grays harbor and mason counties 

Runamuk you are absolutly right and I am wrong; however last year these signs were not posted during the early archery season in the Saint Helens tree farm area I was hunting.  My point is the hotline has to be utilized had he called the hotline prior to his trip every day he would have none that the area was closed to vehicle traffic, and as I said before just because a gate is open does not mean it is open for public access.  This is mandatory this time year with the heat, and knowing they close these areas every year.  Unfortunitly the green dot sign had not been change in his situation.  There are ways to determine the out come you just have to utilize them ALLLLLLL, yes a pain in the rear but very necessary up there.
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true but if you read the signs posted at the gates and are newer to this whole thing you would not think to call the hotline.....just saying it has taken me 3 years to figure out some of this stuff because it is not readily apparent.  I understand why some people get very frustrated with all of it.  I just try not to go anywhere I dont already know unless I am with someone I feel confident in.... makes it slow to find places to go but I dont risk trespassing or being in some closed area etc....

[DoubleJ]

ummm weyerhauser has green dot signs at
 gates..open for vehicles...yellow dot signs at gates for open sometimes and red dot signs at gates for walk in only...this is the system in place all over grays harbor and mason counties 

Runamuk you are absolutly right and I am wrong; however last year these signs were not posted during the early archery season in the Saint Helens tree farm area I was hunting.  My point is the hotline has to be utilized had he called the hotline prior to his trip every day he would have none that the area was closed to vehicle traffic, and as I said before just because a gate is open does not mean it is open for public access.  This is mandatory this time year with the heat, and knowing they close these areas every year.  Unfortunitly the green dot sign had not been change in his situation.  There are ways to determine the out come you just have to utilize them ALLLLLLL, yes a pain in the rear but very necessary up there.

 
as stated earlier in the thread, I was told it was Simpson land, not Weyerhaeuser

[Hunter Dug]

I think most of the Simpson land is in the Margret unit.  Runamuk, I hear ya this is just such a issue every year it makes me wonder if there could be a easier way to notify individuals where to access.  More infomation needs to be included with special permit packets, and Weyerhauser property.  They complain about the elk tearing up there tree farms but make it complicated to enter there areas.  It could be easier for sure.  I am just very big on scouting, and figuring out all there is to find out about an area so I give my self a better chances. Green dots, red dots, signs, hotlines, no access, foot access, just ends up causing people to do things they are unsure of.