Stay on the 25 rd until just before you cross the cispus, which is the boundry. The last mile or so of the rd is timber company land on the right hand side. Also if you turn right on the county rd (can't recall the name) as you are leaving randall, just before you start up a small hill and see the FS sign. Go down it a few miles and there will be timber co land on the left side above the rd. Hope this helps, as I'm sure I'm ticking off others who hunt this area, but everyone deserves a fair shot.