i will agree with you on the target pit thats for sure, then maybe they could close the rd at the painted rock that way it would affect any of the orv trails and would create alot of walk in only and close it off at the state gate on the scott turner side you would still be able to come in on the ashford side, but when it comes to the animals disapearing up there it the atv riders that come in from holiday hills and those farms before elbe town, anyone that knows that place as well as do knows that there is alot of night hunting going on in november up in there, and its a shame because it isnt like there was a major amount of deer and elk in there to begin with