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Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« on: July 12, 2008, 09:42:44 PM »
Just wondering when determining draw length, is it more important to have the proper anchor point, or a proper alignment of the string coming across your face? I had my bow set-up today, and I think the guy set it up with too long of a draw. I felt like my hand was way back behind my head, not anchored under my jaw bone like I used to shoot (haven't shot archery in quite some time).

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 09:45:13 PM »
your hand might be behind your head, but where is your string? i thought the same thing, but after my d-loop and release, the string was right where it belonged. i am a total newbie, so don't listen to what i am telling you, but that was my experience.
i got used to it after i was told at a pro shop that i was good to go.
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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2008, 09:56:11 PM »
You can't just decide the draw lenght on one or the other! It has to be a combination of the two!  First off - your draw lenght is the most important part of the whole thing...  You want to be able to pull back your bow and have your front arm slightly bent and be able to put your index finger knuckle right tight behind your jaw bone.  Or in some cases the good ol' thumb on the back of the neck anchor point.  Either or can be very effective you just need to make sure you do it the same everytime.  Secondly - if they draw lenght is correct and you have that slight bend and your not straining to keep the bow back and your not hitting your arm with the string when you release well then the string should be right across the tip of your nose or darn close.  Tmike and I went over this here a week or so ago when he got his knew bow and it helped him tighten up his groups after we shortened his draw 1/2" and got him anchored good!  Anyways make sure that draw lenght is correct and all else will follow!

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2008, 09:59:29 PM »
First of all, you should never adjust to any bow.  You should always adjust the bow to you.  Having said that, it is hard to say if you draw length is off without looking at you shooting.  If your release hand is too far behind your head, it doesn't necessarily mean the draw length is too long.  It could be the string loop is too long or that your release is too long or it may in fact be that the draw length is too long.

The best thing to do is have someone take a picture of you at full draw and from the side so we can see everything.  From this we can give some ideas how to fix it.   :twocents:

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2008, 10:01:57 PM »
One real fast way to determine if your draw lenght is to long is to pull back your bow and anchor and if your leaning back at the hips it's too long... You should for a perfect "T" from your feet up to your shoulders and then front arm out and anchor arm back it should be a T formation.  if your leaned back it's too long and needs to be shortened and it will stand you up right.  Just  :twocents:

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2008, 10:28:36 PM »
Thanks for all the comments. I will have to try and get a picture of me at full draw so I can see what is going on. He didn't have me shoot at all, he just had me draw it back once.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2008, 10:41:27 PM »
Where did you go??

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2008, 09:19:20 AM »
Cabelas. I had the coupon for employee pricing, so I wanted to use it for my sight and arrows.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2008, 09:37:15 AM »
Oh... Go to a pro shop for more accurate information...  No offense to Cabela's probably one of my favorite stores but the people in the archery department don't know jack!

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 09:40:29 AM »
 :chuckle:

The quickest way to shoot like crap is to have a draw that is too long :twocents:
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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2008, 01:05:45 PM »
Here are a couple pictures of me at full draw. I am 5'6", 5'7" on a good day, and the bow is set at a 28" draw length....




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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2008, 01:41:11 PM »
The draw length does look a bit long to what you usually see, but there is two guys I shoot with regularly that have the same string alignment as you do. The only difference is they have there release shortened way up. As long as you can get string contact and anchor point the same with every shoot you will do just fine. You may want to try shortening you release. Both of the guys I mentioned shot in the top of our league shoots. Good luck on getting dialed in.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2008, 01:51:47 PM »
The release I have is adjustable, but I have it as short as it goes. I may try shooting it like this tonight or tomorrow and see what happens.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2008, 02:13:31 PM »
Your draw is 2 inches too long as far as I'm concerned. I have a Bear Element that was too long for me so I bought a new cam module on EBAY for $20 bucks. Mine was supposed to be 29" but was more like 30 so the new module dropped mine to 27 1/2 to 28" and its perfect now. Alot of people don't account for the 1/2" or so for the D-loop that most people use now so take that in consideration. Do you know what size module you have now?

Here is the link to the guy I bought mine from on ebay.

He has a chart that tells what size you need for each specific bow

http://stores.ebay.com/Tyrees-Bargain-Barn
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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2008, 02:35:45 PM »
I am a relative rookie, but it looks quite long to me as well.  I shoot 28" and I am no where near that long.
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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2008, 03:51:09 PM »
Too long brother , shorten it up a couple inches

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2008, 04:10:03 PM »
Your draw is 2 inches too long as far as I'm concerned. I have a Bear Element that was too long for me so I bought a new cam module on EBAY for $20 bucks. Mine was supposed to be 29" but was more like 30 so the new module dropped mine to 27 1/2 to 28" and its perfect now. Alot of people don't account for the 1/2" or so for the D-loop that most people use now so take that in consideration. Do you know what size module you have now?

Here is the link to the guy I bought mine from on ebay.

He has a chart that tells what size you need for each specific bow

http://stores.ebay.com/Tyrees-Bargain-Barn

I agree that it is too long of a draw for you, it looks like you should be in the 27 to 26 inch range.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2008, 06:41:14 PM »
Your draw length is 1 1/2 to 2 inches too long.  Also, you release is way, way, way too long.  Your release should fit in the palm of your hand at rest.  Mine is actually so short that most people wonder how I manage to put the release on the string.  This allows me to relax at full draw and not have to reach for the trigger.  I have a fletcher shorty.  This is one of the best releases for the way I shoot, and given your stature, you should probably look into getting one. 

In summary, I suggest you shorten up the draw length 1 1/2 inches and get a fletcher shorty release.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2008, 09:34:14 PM »
kind of makes me think mine is too long too...
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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2008, 09:49:44 PM »
You draw lenght is way to long... You need to shorten it at least and 1" or so and shorten up that release a 1/2" or an 1" and you've got er' made.  Better take it back to them or go to a pro shop and have em' shorten that thing for you! 

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2008, 10:24:27 PM »
I went to Sportsman's today to see what they had to say...only other local place that has the Bear mods in stock (they don't charge to change it, they just keep the old mod). At 26", the string was out in front of my face, and at 27" it was pretty darn good. I took my arrows back (the ones they had cut and put inserts in), and got me some new ones (still not cut yet). They guy at Sportsman's seemed very knowledgable and was willing to help me out a lot more.

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Re: Anchor Point vs Draw Length
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2008, 10:25:59 PM »
Did you talk to Rod??

 


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