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Re: Point system??
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 06:58:11 PM »
One other complaint I have is not being able to split up your points or being able to apply only a certain amount of your points to your hunt choices. It's worth putting up all my soon to be 17 points for the tag I want, but it would be nice if I had the choice to only put up half of them and not lose all at once.  I know it sounds like too much for them to handle but it would be nice.
CO worked that way for a few years but discontinued it.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 06:59:50 PM »
One other complaint I have is not being able to split up your points or being able to apply only a certain amount of your points to your hunt choices. It's worth putting up all my soon to be 17 points for the tag I want, but it would be nice if I had the choice to only put up half of them and not lose all at once.  I know it sounds like too much for them to handle but it would be nice.
CO worked that way for a few years but discontinued it.
Do you know why? I wonder what the problem was?
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2011, 06:37:34 AM »
Thanks for the input guys! Sure is a wacky system but I suppose any system that get used would have problems. Like alot of guy's, I guess I'm just whinnin for never have been drawn for anything.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 04:52:40 PM »
If you have six points your name goes in the hat 6 times.  If I have 2 points my name goes into the hat 2 times.

 Thats not true Bigshooter, if you have 6 points your name goes in 36 times, if you have 2 points your name goes in 4 times. ;)

Yeah, I know.  But I didn't want to explain that.  And I thought most people knew anyways.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2011, 04:57:03 PM »
Stupid question alert ...

Where do we find out how many points we have ... I've been putting in for another go at "Greenwater" for eighth years now with no permits. Shouldn't I have allot of points in the bank?

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2011, 04:59:31 PM »
One other complaint I have is not being able to split up your points or being able to apply only a certain amount of your points to your hunt choices. It's worth putting up all my soon to be 17 points for the tag I want, but it would be nice if I had the choice to only put up half of them and not lose all at once.  I know it sounds like too much for them to handle but it would be nice.
CO worked that way for a few years but discontinued it.
Do you know why? I wonder what the problem was?

I believe it was only for one year that CO did that.  It was called point banking.  It was to try and get guys that had a lot of points built up to use them and ease point creep.  The reason that I read they haven't done it again is because very few people with a lot of points took advantage of it.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2011, 05:00:57 PM »
Stupid question alert ...

Where do we find out how many points we have ... I've been putting in for another go at "Greenwater" for eighth years now with no permits. Shouldn't I have allot of points in the bank?
You should have 8 now and will have 9 when you submit next year. If you submit on-line it will tell you how many points.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:04 PM »
only wolves and indians don't need points :bash: we (the tax payer) just support them :' :)

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2011, 08:01:41 PM »
What choice you put down doesn't matter, what matters is when your number is picked. The number of guys with 1 to 8 points by far out number the guys with a bunch of points. When someone is picked they go down the line of their choices untill they either draw or get not selected.  I've had the agony of defeat for 16 years while guys with 2, 4, and 6 points took all 3 tags I was applying for a couple years ago so I understand your anger, but I'm done complaining(maby) too many on here will tell you to apply for an easier tag. I hope they changed the quality tags to guys with 8 or more points only. :twocents:
  I like the 8 or more points idea.

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2011, 08:02:26 PM »
they can shove the point system up their ....well you know  :chuckle: :o

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2011, 08:06:37 PM »
I hear that, pretty soon a person is going to need points to be able to get a deer as the late hunts will be the only time you see deer at this rate.
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Re: Point system??
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 08:10:31 PM »
ive   got 10 points for elk.  my brother inlaw has drawn 3 out of 5 years for elk.  total bs.  im glad for him, but in no way I think it is fair!

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 11:27:12 PM »
Personally I don't bother putting in for drawings, though I may start putting in for OIL tags eventually. I view them kinda like the lottery. Someone who buys $50 worth of random pick lotto numbers has marginally better odds of buying a winning ticket compared to someone who only buys 2, but the overall odds of winning are still ridiculously low for both.

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2011, 09:20:27 AM »
I have 17 points for elk and my odds of drawing a permit anytime soon are very low. In the meantime the Indians and the wolves are going to wipe them out. The special permit numbers will go down because we have fewer bulls and so will our odds of drawing. This unregulated indian harvest is a bad situation but wait until these wolves get going. I think between the two we are doomed.

 I have max points and I say the hell with the present system. Lets forget about points and go back to any bull like it was 17 years ago or 3 point or five point minimum. I know it would only take a year or two to kill all the big bulls but at least everyone will get a crack at them. It is better than letting the Indians and the wolves get em all.

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Re: Point system??
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2011, 09:50:21 AM »
Someone who buys $50 worth of random pick lotto numbers has marginally better odds of buying a winning ticket compared to someone who only buys 2, but the overall odds of winning are still ridiculously low for both.
You are correct.

Odds to draw a quality tag in Washington are extremely low, even with a lot of points.  When you have 10 permits and 3000 applicants, 2990 applicants won't get drawn.  Points increase the odds, but the chance of getting drawn for some of the best tags is still very low.  You might go from 1 in 5000 to 1 in 100.  And yes, the guy with one lotto ticket wins sometimes!
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