Lumenok Poll Results

[Quackin_Archer]

Could have used one today.

[JJB11B]

I would like to try them out, right now I cant justify spending the money on something I cant use...Like the little light that screws into some of the sights

[Snapshot]

mine comes from a guides point of view and i can't stand to see hurt animals that can't befound and the arrow recovery for me is huge, if i cant find it. i feel lost, it tell me a big story, i owe it to my hunters and he deer.

Do you guide only archery hunters or others as well?

[buckfvr]

From what I understand, they are quite heavy, and adding weght to the back of the shaft, means you will have to add corresponding weight forward to address FOC changes.  This may cause spine issues, and in some cases, may require people to change shafts.  After all that, its time to at least resite your bow, maybe retune......from that aspect alone, legal or not, I will never use them, and could care less who does.....what I think of advantages as far as finding game, thats a complete unknown until there are some real statistics available.....not someones hearsay.

[Archeryoutfitters]

mine comes from a guides point of view and i can't stand to see hurt animals that can't befound and the arrow recovery for me is huge, if i cant find it. i feel lost, it tell me a big story, i owe it to my hunters and he deer.

Do you guide only archery hunters or others as well?

Only archery and primarily non residents, with exception of special permit hunters, i will do gun,muzzle,or bow and resident or non resident   

[Archeryoutfitters]

From what I understand, they are quite heavy, and adding weght to the back of the shaft, means you will have to add corresponding weight forward to address FOC changes.  This may cause spine issues, and in some cases, may require people to change shafts.  After all that, its time to at least resite your bow, maybe retune......from that aspect alone, legal or not, I will never use them, and could care less who does.....what I think of advantages as far as finding game, thats a complete unknown until there are some real statistics available.....not someones hearsay.

the finding of your game is  better ALWAYS  on a bad hit if you can find your arrow, so you know what took place, how long to wait, what kind of penetration, where the animal went if the arrow stays with him for a wile you can still spot the lighted nock some times 100's of yards of and it can put you back on the trail. (I don't need some one to write it down a a piece of paper to tell me that,  i probably look for more bow shot animals in a year or two than most bow hunter do in a life time). 

they only add 15 grains total to your arrow, not much but the reward well out weighs that little bit i would be surprised if there was any one, that could tell a difference at 30 yards, i have shot and tested them a lot out to 100 yards.

talk about hearsay read your first line?   

[UptheCreek]

I agree with archeryoutfitters.  They don't really affect much if any within 50 yards.  Try one out before believing the "hearsay."  Or look at like this, if they are so heavy and troublesome, that would
put the users at a disvantage making it actually harder to shoot an animal therefore requiring more skill.  So, by using logic that many on this site use, if you use lumenoks, you are actually
putting more of a challenge on yourself making you much more like a traditional bowhunter.

[buckfvr]

No one is questioning your experience or how many animals you look for in a given season.  I merely pointed out what I have read on several posts on a few different archery sites. I added this info more as a heads up to those who choose to use them.  As far as seeing some actual statistics, I suppose if you are already using them, you would know more about it than some of the rest of us. 

I can not say for sure what they weigh, but I have heard from your 15 grains to 25 grains, and either weight added to the back end of a shaft that is in the low end of FOC reccommendations  or spine, would be a concern to a discerning archer, especially once you tip that shaft with a broadhead.  If you are experiencing no problems out to 100 yards, then you are certainly doing everything right. 

Not arguing with you Brian, just sharing my thoughts in hopes of it helping others. 

[Seabass]

I think it's funny that people believe that non-hunters have an opinion on these types of esoteric issues. Even more ridiculous is that we should pander to them based on an assumption that we know how they feel about some topic that they are clueless about.

I always lean toward less governance where no person is directly impacted in a negative way. I can't see where this issue is going to hurt someone. If you don't want to use them; don't but your personal preference shouldn't drive law.

[Gobble Gobble]

This is what will happen to hunting in my opinion.

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[Snapshot]

mine comes from a guides point of view and i can't stand to see hurt animals that can't befound and the arrow recovery for me is huge, if i cant find it. i feel lost, it tell me a big story, i owe it to my hunters and he deer.

Do you guide only archery hunters or others as well?

Only archery and primarily non residents, with exception of special permit hunters, i will do gun,muzzle,or bow and resident or non resident

So what advantageous recovery tool can you offer for your clients who shoot bullets? Or have none ever, ever failed to recover a wounded animal? Archery hunters have been painted with a very broad brushstroke in the argument for electric nocks. [It's been like an anti-hunters' candy store where they can pick up "Wounding Problem!" quotes from actual hunters. Sad.]

Why am I not hearing it suggested that a recovery tool be available that will find animals wounded by bullets and balls?!

I suspect the reason to be that it isn't really about finding a wounded animal but rather about being told that the device cannot be used in Washington.

If it were really about finding wounded game we'd be asking to have the only proven recovery tool known to man (rather than a "looks cool on video" gadget) specifically written into our state regulations, with clear guidelines as to how, when and by whom man's best friend may be used to recover a wounded and lost animal.

[jstone]

GOBBLE GOBBLE. There are already people like that out there. Ya Right Cher we Slower People here  in Texas, UH HUH

[Archeryoutfitters]

No one is questioning your experience or how many animals you look for in a given season.  I merely pointed out what I have read on several posts on a few different archery sites. I added this info more as a heads up to those who choose to use them.  As far as seeing some actual statistics, I suppose if you are already using them, you would know more about it than some of the rest of us. 

I can not say for sure what they weigh, but I have heard from your 15 grains to 25 grains, and either weight added to the back end of a shaft that is in the low end of FOC reccommendations  or spine, would be a concern to a discerning archer, especially once you tip that shaft with a broadhead.  If you are experiencing no problems out to 100 yards, then you are certainly doing everything right. 

Not arguing with you Brian, just sharing my thoughts in hopes of it helping others. 

hello, i would just like to see then legal i have done a little home work for my self, and would really like to see then OK to use because it would  make life a lot easier and i would like to see  this valuable  tool available to be used, in our state, it is still  personal choice. 

sorry i feel so strongly about it but i get to talk to a large amount of avid bow hunters from allover the united states every year and not one person who uses them have had a bad thing to say, so this is where i started my option from. but my main goal is animal recovery.so any personal observations i'm truly interested in. but please keep them real.

There actual replacement weight is 15 gr. that is after you take your nock. out and add the lighted one you are adding 15gr. to your arrows.

Thank You Brian





 

no you can  get away with shooting them out to 70 but that is it, for what i experienced here. thanks     

[boneaddict]

hello, i would just like to see then legal i have done a little home work for my self, and would really like to see then OK to use because it would  make life a lot easier and i would like to see  this valuable  tool available to be used, in our state, it is still  personal choice.

Especially when your out of state hunters want to use them here.   What would those Texans do? LOL

[boneaddict]

Should there be any limits at all for what archery equipment can do.  At what point does technology become too much.  Any self imposed lines?