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Check out the blood trail on this deer
« on: December 13, 2011, 11:29:34 PM »
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2 videos part one and part two watch them both I cant be-leave how far he went.  :yike:

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 06:36:14 AM »
What a stud.  He shot a fawn.  The reason it went so far is he didn't hit the lungs.  At first I thought maybe liver but then at the end of the video you can see where he hit and it looks too far back for liver.  So may he just got lucky and hit an artery  :dunno:  Either way liver or artery he went so far because he had to bleed out before he died.   :twocents:
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 07:24:06 AM »
What a stud.  He shot a fawn.  The reason it went so far is he didn't hit the lungs.  At first I thought maybe liver but then at the end of the video you can see where he hit and it looks too far back for liver.  So may he just got lucky and hit an artery  :dunno:  Either way liver or artery he went so far because he had to bleed out before he died.   :twocents:
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 07:58:38 AM »
Thats what happens with an expandable blade mechanical head. When you are trying to shove a 3" hole through something you arent going to get any penetration. Those things suck for real life hunting situations. Unless your 20 yards and in they are worthless.

I had a buddy shoot a caribou at 35 yards with one and only got 3" of penetration on two arrows. Threw them in the trash and switched to Montec G5's and never had trouble again.

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 08:07:20 AM »

All animals bleed out when shot with a razor tipped arrow.  That is the goal.  Probably a very good shot and looks like a decent size doe to me.  Congrats to the hunter and good choice of broadhead.


Mechanicals don't suck.  Some of the best hunters out there use them. Some of the mechanicals out there these days penetrate better than fixed blades.  If you have trouble with penetration, make sure your arrows weigh at least 450 gr for larger critters.

Mechanicals have allowed people to bring home game they would have otherwise lost.  Big hole = backstrap

If i do have a complaint about mechanicals it is that they have been known to deflect on quartering shots.  Don't take quartering shots unless you have a mechanical that is built for quartering shots.

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 10:42:08 AM »
You shouldnt have to have a specific broadhead for different shots. He did hit it too far back, but that happens. It was definately a nice blood trail though. Mechanicals have too many issues. Its always "when" they open correctly they do well. I dont want if or when, when I hunt. I have had the same blood trails from my slick trick 100's and monster sized holes. MY problem with the vid isnt the fact he hit it far back, or what broadhead he used, but my problem with it is he had no idea what he had shot. Especially bow hunting. It was a nice sized doe, but he still shot in the dark and had to ask his buddy what it was he had shot. Thats how people get hurt and the wrong animal gets taken. Poor form.

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 11:14:19 AM »
watch the video again. he says at the beginning of pt 1 that it was a fawn. at the end of video 2 he asked if it was a buck fawn or doe fawn...whats wrong with that? at thirty five yds they look the same  :dunno:
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 11:25:46 AM »
I have never shot mechincals, but I hear they shoot the same as your field tips.  That would be nice to only sight in your pins once :twocents:  That is one heck of a blood trail :yike:
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 01:15:58 PM »
I heard them but they weren't sure and end the end they say it is a good size doe when they are right up on it.  Looks like a 2 yr old doe to me but could be a fawn  (mmmm tender).

We use to hunt on a farmers land and every year he wanted us to shoot him a yearling because was better table fare.

There is no 100% with fixed blades either.  Hitting far back happens on moving/live animals.  I've seen mechanicals bring gut shot deer down within sight while also seeing plenty of times when people lose animals with fixed blades.  Don't knock them till you try them.  That's how we end up with stupid laws controlling what people can use...  should be a personal choice. 

I'm convinced mechanicals are better than fixed in many situations....  not all.  By the way, I use large diameter fixed blades myself.

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 01:36:58 PM »
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 03:00:49 PM »
watch the video again. he says at the beginning of pt 1 that it was a fawn. at the end of video 2 he asked if it was a buck fawn or doe fawn...whats wrong with that? at thirty five yds they look the same  :dunno:

 You know at 35 yards the size of the animal if you have an appropriate shot. Hunters should always know what  they are shooting at, and if they (or any ethical hunter) have any question what it is, then its definately not a shoot and find out what you have hunt. Nothing wrong with fawn. Legal is legal as long as there isnt spots. It doesnt look like a fawn at all. It is a decent doe and a pretty good blood trail  :tup:
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
The problem with penetration isn't expandables its the fact that out east a lot of guys want to use what some "experts" say which is lighter = faster = better. So guys shoot IBO arrows a lot. Yeah they start out fast bit lose their momentum past 20yds.  Expandables are fine. But tje doe/fawn ran so far because at best he hit liver so it had to bleed out. The blood was too dark. If it had been lung or heart tje deer would not have run that far. I use both rage 2 blade and Slick Trick magnums. Both in 125 grains for a total weigjt of 433. I used rages on my white tails this year. They work well but its a one time use broad head. I won't buy more. I also would not use them on elk. My slick trick blasted through a rib, quartered up through both lungs before blasting througj tje offside shoulder before sticking in tje hide. My rages would not have performed so well. Also the blood trail from my slick trick was pretty insane.

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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 05:59:38 PM »
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 08:04:01 PM »
That looks like a commercial for a good four blade broad head like a Muzzy to me!
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Re: Check out the blood trail on this deer
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 08:29:11 PM »
The video  didn't relate how excited or nervous the deer was before being shot.  That deer was always dead, looking at the blood trail.  It was a very good trail and there was no doubt of the outcome.  But my point is that if adrenalin is in the blood stream before a hit, even very fatal hits, the animal can cover unbelievable distances.
Case in point.  I once finished off a buck that had been jumped by hounds.  Then it was hit in the chest with two rounds from a .270 and one load of buckshot.  That buck made it over a 1/4 mile with literally no heart left and the only lung tissue was two inches around. 
That was a decent size doe in thr vid., and since the heart wasn't stopped by the hit, adrenalin was able to circulate throughout the vitals and aid in the long trail.

 


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