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personally, I wouldn't partake in this kind of "hunt". but I would not judge others in a negative light who choose to do so.why not just raise or assess the Snoqualmie TPC golf club members, SnoqTPC home owners/association & course management/ownership enough dollars $$$$ to build the much needed fence or additional dollars to compensate for repair of the golf course.golf club or private club members of any sort all KNOW ALL about $ ASSESSMENTS...then you'd see local support of a damage control hunt.
Quote from: MAVsled on December 17, 2011, 09:30:07 AMpersonally, I wouldn't partake in this kind of "hunt". but I would not judge others in a negative light who choose to do so.why not just raise or assess the Snoqualmie TPC golf club members, SnoqTPC home owners/association & course management/ownership enough dollars $$$$ to build the much needed fence or additional dollars to compensate for repair of the golf course.golf club or private club members of any sort all KNOW ALL about $ ASSESSMENTS...then you'd see local support of a damage control hunt.True, can't imagine how much 222 acres would cost to fence.
Quote from: jaymark6655 on December 17, 2011, 09:39:40 AMQuote from: MAVsled on December 17, 2011, 09:30:07 AMpersonally, I wouldn't partake in this kind of "hunt". but I would not judge others in a negative light who choose to do so.why not just raise or assess the Snoqualmie TPC golf club members, SnoqTPC home owners/association & course management/ownership enough dollars $$$$ to build the much needed fence or additional dollars to compensate for repair of the golf course.golf club or private club members of any sort all KNOW ALL about $ ASSESSMENTS...then you'd see local support of a damage control hunt.True, can't imagine how much 222 acres would cost to fence.Exactly. Same way I look at anyone griping about wildlife damaging their crops. If you are a farmer, orchard owner or golf course owner and do not like having deer or elk on your farm,...fence it yourself and stop looking to the rest of us to fix your personal problem. I don't see the state chipping in to help protect cherry growers from damage and losses from birds, or grain growers from losses from bird and rodents... You need a fence? Looks like you better sell off enough land to afford your own damned fence. Is a damage control hunt going to work anyway? Seems these go on forever. Deer and elk will not just run and hide cause a hunt was held once.... Fix it forever, build your own fence.
Sorry pianoman, this is not a hunting issue, this is a protect your own property issue. It is entirely possible for the private property owners to completely fence off the entire area to keep Elk and Deer from entering. This one time privately funded effort will permanently fix their problems, at absolutely no cost to taxpayers. How about gophers affecting the greens? Are we taxpayers expected to help with this too?Not every issue related to big game should result in a five star panel of wildlife bios and wildlife officials studying and proposing fixes. This is a no brainer. I see no benefit from wasting our efforts to try to weasel a meager damage control hunt to fix this. Alot could and will go wrong, as well as provide another platform for antis to stand on. Instead, let them fence it off and allow the normal hunt around the area to occur....no changes. I do not want to spend a dime helping them fix their problem.
The average price for the fairway facing homes in today's market is about $700K.I've participated in the discussion on elk here in the valley over the last few years. The biggest failure in this process has been the community outreach angle. Strange as it seems, there just is not enough interest in educating people. A huge effort was put forth on the interesting research project and a lot of effort was put forth to have a successful hunt, some even calling it a model for the state. However, communtity outreach was the *censored* child of this effort and first to be cut back by WDFW at the end of 2009. I've cataloged all of that here:USVEMG DiscussionsMy wife was the only person on volunteer education/outreach for this for the next year and a half, while the collaring project is now big enough it meets in a larger venue, closely integrated with the master hunter damage hunt.
No expense at all? How about continued complaints about elk on the course a week after a damage control hunt. How about wildlife officers having to patrol the hunt area? How about wildlife officers responding to reports that someone has trespassed onto the grounds to poach an elk, or recover an elk which died 500 yards away from where it was shot?How about wildlife paying damage to property caused by a stampeding herd of elk being chased by our "best" master hunters?There will be huge expenses to manage this issue, year after year after year. Don't fool yourself thinking otherwise. Putting hunters into the middle of a golf course to cull elk is a stupid idea, when you can simply tell them to put up a fence or shut up. Hunters can chase the elk elsewhere. Edit: Littledave, I believe if we can fence off vast areas in central Washington to cooridor off elk and to keep deer out of the apples, that private investors should be willing to spend the extra cash necessary to protect their investment. They buy insurance, they can surely buy fencing.
No expense at all? How about continued complaints about elk on the course a week after a damage control hunt. How about wildlife officers having to patrol the hunt area? How about wildlife officers responding to reports that someone has trespassed onto the grounds to poach an elk, or recover an elk which died 500 yards away from where it was shot?How about wildlife paying damage to property caused by a stampeding herd of elk being chased by our "best" master hunters?There will be huge expenses to manage this issue, year after year after year. Don't fool yourself thinking otherwise.