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Offline plugger

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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2011, 06:10:27 PM »
When they said only one user group, They ment rifle only from what I read. It didn't say anything about MH.  They want them dead and the most effective way to do that is with a rifle.

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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2011, 11:14:10 PM »
Seeing this post inspired me to join this site.  It seems so highly unlikely that under the terms of the  Proclamation 7319 - Establishment of the Hanford Reach National Monument (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=62329#axzz1glYx1qOG) & the mission statement of the USFWS (http://www.fws.gov/planning/Mission.html) that any hunt could occur no matter what WDFW or the YN wants.  I didn't see how the USFWS proposal even addressed legally justifying a hunt when preservation & conservation are so clearly written into 7319.  I thought that's why they first tried relocation!  It isn't within 7319 to allow hunting!
But the bigger question is written in their proposal; just what exactly does the following imply under V. C page 8: " Disturbance from hunting could result in elk crossing Highway 240 and moving into the central portion of the Hanford Site where environmental issues from past DOE activities could impact the herd."  Just what is keeping the herd from crossing over to the actual "Works" portion east of hwy 240 now?  The 3 strand barbed wire fences along Hwy 240 were replaced with a single strand smooth wire in 2005 to prevent the buildup of tumbleweeds, their fire danger and so the deer & elk won't scratch their bellies jumping over it.   FWS & DOE acknowledge that the lands east of hwy 240 pose environmental issues to all life forms; in fact the "Works" area is under DOE administration and only those lands west of the hwy are under FWS as they specifically do not manage hazardous sites.  In fact, FWS has told DOE to clean up around all of the old NIKE missile batteries on the ALE & Walluke Slope because of the use of DDT, 245T, & other herbicides at those sites.   The question in my mind is, what is the health of the herd considering the potential for contamination from God knows what?  Have there been any studies looking for contamination in the blood & bone samples from these relatively short lived mammals?  Maybe I'm overly cautious but I think we can all appreciate that elk know no boundaries and although Hanford played a key part to our national defense we have been paying and will continue to pay for it's cleanup to now protect us from all the contamination from that program...

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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2011, 11:50:18 PM »
Seeing this post inspired me to join this site.  It seems so highly unlikely that under the terms of the  Proclamation 7319 - Establishment of the Hanford Reach National Monument (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=62329#axzz1glYx1qOG) & the mission statement of the USFWS (http://www.fws.gov/planning/Mission.html) that any hunt could occur no matter what WDFW or the YN wants.  I didn't see how the USFWS proposal even addressed legally justifying a hunt when preservation & conservation are so clearly written into 7319.  I thought that's why they first tried relocation!  It isn't within 7319 to allow hunting!
But the bigger question is written in their proposal; just what exactly does the following imply under V. C page 8: " Disturbance from hunting could result in elk crossing Highway 240 and moving into the central portion of the Hanford Site where environmental issues from past DOE activities could impact the herd."  Just what is keeping the herd from crossing over to the actual "Works" portion east of hwy 240 now?  The 3 strand barbed wire fences along Hwy 240 were replaced with a single strand smooth wire in 2005 to prevent the buildup of tumbleweeds, their fire danger and so the deer & elk won't scratch their bellies jumping over it.   FWS & DOE acknowledge that the lands east of hwy 240 pose environmental issues to all life forms; in fact the "Works" area is under DOE administration and only those lands west of the hwy are under FWS as they specifically do not manage hazardous sites.  In fact, FWS has told DOE to clean up around all of the old NIKE missile batteries on the ALE & Walluke Slope because of the use of DDT, 245T, & other herbicides at those sites.   The question in my mind is, what is the health of the herd considering the potential for contamination from God knows what?  Have there been any studies looking for contamination in the blood & bone samples from these relatively short lived mammals?  Maybe I'm overly cautious but I think we can all appreciate that elk know no boundaries and although Hanford played a key part to our national defense we have been paying and will continue to pay for it's cleanup to now protect us from all the contamination from that program...

I like this guy already!! Welcome aboard Tampico

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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2011, 11:11:54 PM »
 :yeah:
I will keep my guns, money and freedom. You can keep the change!

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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #64 on: December 18, 2011, 12:28:30 AM »
My dad works out in that general area of the site....I could have him scouting for me :)
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Re: WDFW wants to reduce the Hanford herd by 350.
« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2011, 12:31:26 AM »
So people get angry for tribe bashing....I get angry that they get preferential treatment of the rest of the nation...call it what you want I call it Racial discrimination. Reperations my @$$
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