A Shame, is this common?

[Biggerhammer]

maybe ask NASA for a satalite image of the canyon    if I didn't have enough blood at last light what makes you think I would have it under mag light  Thanks for the help though 

I can hook you up with some of my secret squirrel, ninja type, black op's brothers and for the right amount of cash they can hook you up with that imagery and some dancing girls with a portable stripper pole all hopped up on Earl Gray.

[JimmyHoffa]

hammer, I think you're on to something.....  The regs say no aircraft for hunting, but nothing about live feed satellite imagery.  Can only imagine if someone had a display and an appropriately timed passover....what they could do to find some animals. 

[Biggerhammer]

hammer, I think you're on to something.....  The regs say no aircraft for hunting, but nothing about live feed satellite imagery.  Can only imagine if someone had a display and an appropriately timed passover....what they could do to find some animals.

It's a shame that none of the clowns at Google Earth will ever have a security clearance remotly close to getting anything in real or even close to real time, because they could be baught. And I would be putting  thousands of bucks into raffle tickets.

F.L.I.R Units can be real handy.

[400out]

maybe ask NASA for a satalite image of the canyon    if I didn't have enough blood at last light what makes you think I would have it under mag light  Thanks for the help though 

I can hook you up with some of my secret squirrel, ninja type, black op's brothers and for the right amount of cash they can hook you up with that imagery and some dancing girls with a portable stripper pole all hopped up on Earl Gray.

now i would have had lights brought to me for a stripper pole!    would have stayed out there all night might not have found a deer but would have stayed 

[h2ofowlr]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

How many of these filmed tv shows, show the crew coming back the next morning to recover there kill. Quite a few actually.  Watch one episode where a yote had a nice meal on the buck the guy had found the next morning.  Probably pretty common for those folks that leave them over night in yote or wolf country.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

The worst I ever saw on TV, can't remember the name of the show, but I think it was on the Outdoor Channel, the hero/star was some bigshot pistol hunter. He was hunting a ranch down in the South somewhere. Sitting in a treestand, bragging about his exploits and spouting off trying to show off his great hunting knowledge.  So this buck finally comes right under his stand and he fires. You can see the bullet hit........gutshot. The deer runs off and the guy is bragging about what a good hit it was, even tho you can see with your own eyes it wasn't. So then he's talking about we'll let it wait an hour to make sure it dies and go after it. Spring ahead to the end of the day and the guy and crew (guides) from the farm are looking everywhere and can't find it. The star says, well, we'll be back here tomorrow tracking this animal and I'm sure we'll find it in the morning. Commercial break. Then we're back on scene some time the next day with the farm crew searching for the animal and they finally find it dead in a pond. Whoops, Where's the bigshot star? One of the guys from the farm gets in front of the camera and says, something like, "So and So couldn't be here with us today. He had a flight to catch. But we searched and searched and finally found his great animal and we're going to take care of the meat and ship it to him. He said to tell you he was sorry he couldn't be here." Hah, I'll bet if they did send that meat to him, it was immediately thrown in a dumpster or donated to a zoo, cuz a warm gutshot deer in water for almost a day was not fit to eat. That arrogant bigmouth couldn't be bothered to stay and help look for the animal he'd mortally wounded.

That was the last time I watched the Outdoor channel or any of those fake hunting shows.

[husky270]

Going back in the am left to much opportunity and to much time  , predators are always on the lookout if it wasnt coyotes it would of been a cougar . i would of left it but not so long and got some help  it succombed to its wounds which is obvious , you just need to be in the area when it does sorry for the outcome 

[JLS]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

Exactly..........who waits for even an hour to look for an animal. That's TV B.S.

Any good bowhunter would.

[jaymark6655]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

Any good bowhunter would.




Exactly..........who waits for even an hour to look for an animal. That's TV B.S.

I force myself to wait about 30 min. if I don't see it just drop.  It is mainly to give myself a chance to calm down.

[Odell]

Yeah waiting an hour when bow hunting is common and really what can go wrong in an hour? Meat won't spoil over night. Of course it's better to cool it as quick as possible but if rather wait instead of bumping my buck in the dark.

[Biggerhammer]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

Exactly..........who waits for even an hour to look for an animal. That's TV B.S.

Any good bowhunter would.

W
Let's face it, it's a Rookie mistake that could have derived from what he was told or what he read about or what he watched. Most with field expirience and some animals behind them. Know what type of hit they have. By watching the hit, watching the animals reaction and a quick look at the impact area and blood trail and adjust accordingly, In open country here in Eastern WA. Why  are you going to wait  8 hours or so after a hit? Huge open country.  That's like instead of walking quickly through water posted for piranhas , you strip down and take a 8-10 hour bath and when you have piranhas hang from your junk, you wonder why?, What the heck do you expect. Really, this isn't back east with little pansy foxes to worry about like people watch on the outdoor channels. Around here the big cats and Coyotes will take a shot at your dog on your front porch. So what's going to stop them from eating your animal to bare bones while our playing grab ass however many miles away. A heap of sheeet cant even begin to equal a teaspoon of COMMON SENSE!!

[BoomWhop]

We have lost 2 animals this way.  My uncle shot a nice whitetail right at dark in tall grass.  We searched until the batties were dead in all 3 flash lights.  We knew we had to be close to it but the grass was waist high.  Came back at daylight and Lions got to it, most of the hind end gone.  That was Unit 178.  I hit a nice buck in unit 145 with the Muzzy, it ran onto private property that is a no-no area for hunting, this was also late in the day.  We got ahold of the land owner that evening, explained what happened and described the buck. (3x3 with eye guards) The land owner suprised us and said go get him.  We found him within an hour.  Looked like a fish from a cartoon.  Nothing left but the head, picked clean.  How the hell can they get the bones that clean in that short of time???  It was a very bitter use of a muzzy tag.

[JLS]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

Exactly..........who waits for even an hour to look for an animal. That's TV B.S.

Any good bowhunter would.

W
Let's face it, it's a Rookie mistake that could have derived from what he was told or what he read about or what he watched. Most with field expirience and some animals behind them. Know what type of hit they have. By watching the hit, watching the animals reaction and a quick look at the impact area and blood trail and adjust accordingly, In open country here in Eastern WA. Why  are you going to wait  8 hours or so after a hit? Huge open country.  That's like instead of walking quickly through water posted for piranhas , you strip down and take a 8-10 hour bath and when you have piranhas hang from your junk, you wonder why?, What the heck do you expect. Really, this isn't back east with little pansy foxes to worry about like people watch on the outdoor channels. Around here the big cats and Coyotes will take a shot at your dog on your front porch. So what's going to stop them from eating your animal to bare bones while our playing grab ass however many miles away. A heap of sheeet cant even begin to equal a teaspoon of COMMON SENSE!!

I see it differently.  The deer was still up and moving 1.5 hours after he shot it.  Not good.   Open country or not, an animal pushed can absolutely vanish with no blood trail.  I've had it happen and I'm sure some of you have too.  I think they did absolutely the right thing, and it's just poor luck.

I'm not saying I'd leave every animal overnight that I shot right at dark, but I sure would rather take the chance of losing some meat to the coyotes than risk not finding the animal at all.  I guess the moral of the story is that if you take a shot right at dark, make sure it's a good one.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Another thing to consider is, the longer you wait, the more likely the wound will plug up and there will be no blood trail to follow. 

Back east where this is popular,  you push an animal and it goes onto some other property you don't have permission to hunt. So they hope by not pushing it, it will die on the property they can hunt.

Give it a few minutes to settle down, cuz it doesn't even know what happened. Then follow the blood trail slowly just like you're still hunting and if need be, get another shot into it.

[Biggerhammer]

that is why you never let an animal lay overnight and who would want to eat it after the guts stayed in it for ten hours... They do it on tv because they give the meat to the food bank and dont care if it is spoiled.... I would have hounded that buck all night until it was in my hands... its a shame hopefully your buddy learned a valuable lesson here and never leaves an animal overnight again...

Exactly..........who waits for even an hour to look for an animal. That's TV B.S.

Any good bowhunter would.

W
Let's face it, it's a Rookie mistake that could have derived from what he was told or what he read about or what he watched. Most with field expirience and some animals behind them. Know what type of hit they have. By watching the hit, watching the animals reaction and a quick look at the impact area and blood trail and adjust accordingly, In open country here in Eastern WA. Why  are you going to wait  8 hours or so after a hit? Huge open country.  That's like instead of walking quickly through water posted for piranhas , you strip down and take a 8-10 hour bath and when you have piranhas hang from your junk, you wonder why?, What the heck do you expect. Really, this isn't back east with little pansy foxes to worry about like people watch on the outdoor channels. Around here the big cats and Coyotes will take a shot at your dog on your front porch. So what's going to stop them from eating your animal to bare bones while our playing grab ass however many miles away. A heap of sheeet cant even begin to equal a teaspoon of COMMON SENSE!!

I see it differently.  The deer was still up and moving 1.5 hours after he shot it.  Not good.   Open country or not, an animal pushed can absolutely vanish with no blood trail.  I've had it happen and I'm sure some of you have too.  I think they did absolutely the right thing, and it's just poor luck.

I'm not saying I'd leave every animal overnight that I shot right at dark, but I sure would rather take the chance of losing some meat to the coyotes than risk not finding the animal at all.  I guess the moral of the story is that if you take a shot right at dark, make sure it's a good one.

Pushed and vanished is exactly the same as, devowered by yotes and cats in my book. I'll push before I'll feed the likes of them. I had to track a Mulie shot with a 7mm Magnum at dark in the rain, it was as if he had been abducted by aliens and not the ones south of our boarder. Just had to look a litlle longer and a little further, extra Surefire battery's work wonders.