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hunting private released birds
« on: December 29, 2011, 02:31:40 PM »
do the hunting seasons apply to hunting privately released birds on private land?  (pheasants)  some are exotic pheasants...  :dunno:

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 02:47:10 PM »
No, but I think you might need proof that you're not shooting wild birds.

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 02:48:13 PM »
No, but I think you might need proof that you're not shooting wild birds.

like bands?   what about the exotic pheasants?  isn't that proof enough?

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 02:48:39 PM »
I would almost wonder if you would get in trouble for releasing exotics?

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 02:49:48 PM »
In the past when I bought birds I was told that I needed to have the reciept and that the birds had to be banded or toe clipped or otherwise distiquishable from wild birds.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 02:49:54 PM »
I would almost wonder if you would get in trouble for releasing exotics?

i don't think the exotics were purposely released.

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 02:51:32 PM »
In the past when I bought birds I was told that I needed to have the reciept and that the birds had to be banded or toe clipped or otherwise distiquishable from wild birds.
That is correct.
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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 02:52:51 PM »
In the past when I bought birds I was told that I needed to have the reciept and that the birds had to be banded or toe clipped or otherwise distiquishable from wild birds.
That is correct.

so without a relciept i'm S.O.L?  or is the band enough since they are raise at the site?

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 02:56:02 PM »
In the past when I bought birds I was told that I needed to have the reciept and that the birds had to be banded or toe clipped or otherwise distiquishable from wild birds.
That is correct.

so without a relciept i'm S.O.L?  or is the band enough since they are raise at the site?
How would you prove you didn't put the band on?  I have shot raised birds and still have the bands from them.  I could put them on other birds.
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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 02:59:42 PM »
true......    :tung:  ..............  i'm trying to find loopholes...  :chuckle:   :chuckle:   so far i think only exotics..  :chuckle:

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 03:23:49 PM »
would this fall into the world of private hunting reserves & if so would there be permits or licences required of the property owner or operator?

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 04:07:18 PM »
would this fall into the world of private hunting reserves & if so would there be permits or licences required of the property owner or operator?

i doubt it,.. its not a buisiness and he's definately not making money on it,...


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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 04:13:42 PM »
would this fall into the world of private hunting reserves & if so would there be permits or licences required of the property owner or operator?

i doubt it,.. its not a buisiness and he's definately not making money on it,...
I think you are not correct.  Anyone raising game birds needs a license.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-027
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.340
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.65.480
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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2011, 04:40:46 PM »
do the hunting seasons apply to hunting privately released birds on private land?  (pheasants)  some are exotic pheasants...  :dunno:
absolutely not. thousands of pen raised birds are killed for dog training all year long.
if you are on public land there is a dog training season in some areas so you do not disturb nesting birds.

as far as proof goes... I have never been asked proof of anything by a gamey while training on public land with pen raised birds. your mileage may differ.
all my training has been done in western washington where exotic pheasants, bobwhite quail, and chukars are not indigenous.

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 06:42:02 PM »
would this fall into the world of private hunting reserves & if so would there be permits or licences required of the property owner or operator?

i doubt it,.. its not a buisiness and he's definately not making money on it,...
I think you are not correct.  Anyone raising game birds needs a license.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=232-12-027
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.340
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.65.480

I don't see where it states that purchasing game birds without a license is illegal.....  Also... I don't know if the guys has a game farm license or not...  I would adume if he would be required to have one than he does.... :dunno:

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 09:15:46 PM »
Beginner your origional question:
do the hunting seasons apply to hunting privately released birds on private land?  (pheasants)  some are exotic pheasants...  :dunno:
You would be wise to have a receipt stating you purchased ANY game bird from a licensed breeder, exotics are different (what specise exactly are you talking) but not necessarily a given as no issue. Any gamebird you release you had better tag/identify somehow with a noticable indicator that it is infact one of YOUR birds, a leg band and a piece of surveyor tape so you know when it gets uo there is no question it is yours. We get away a little easier on the wet side as there not much of a native population to worry about. Ensure it stays a small "training session" with just you or a small group, if you get into the reserve thing there is certainly more laws and permits. I have had a gamefarm license for 10 years and sold thousands of birds but have only been contacted by the game dept twice for folks using my birds and both times were at western WA release site. PM me if you have any other questions, I am NOT a lawyer or a game warden but I will give you the best info I can.

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 09:34:10 PM »
No problem... I don't plan on hunting outside of the season.   :tung:

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2012, 09:41:18 AM »
SO,.. ANOTHER QUESTION,... WHAT ABOUT RECALL PENS?  WHATS THE LEGALITY OF THOSE?  :dunno:

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Re: hunting private released birds
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 09:17:16 PM »
Yes they are legal as long as they are on private land or not used on public land during nesting season.

 


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