they don't buck hay huh. so just what do you think they are feeding their cattle with. they aren't buying that stuff, they cut their own, as i do. in two weeks i'll be bucking hay for our 100 head, along with several other outfits in the area (gmu127) while i'm happy with the draw for the late buck now, there is still alot of pressure legal and illegal. i spend half my hours hunting, chasing trespassers and posting the usual signs. alot of us are tired of the damage to fences and trespassing, even hunters driving in the fields, chasing down animals with their trucks. our outfit is trying to work with wdfw to place decoy deer at the usual drive by hotspots in our area , but with little success. seems the state just wants to visit butcher shops rather than patrol the field. it's abit frustrating and that is why permission is rarely handed out. even when it is, it's usualy abused. as i stated earlier, if ya want to hunt, then ya gotta clean dishes, so to speak.