WOLF PACK KILLS DOG ! UP DATED TODAY .......

[Machias]

I have NO doubt they were around his house.  They have GPS tracked several wolves that hang out near farm houses in OR.  They hang out near the cattle herds etc...  I just think the story was embellished a bit.  Do I think they will pose a danger to children, yes I do.  Do I think a pack of wolves were snapping at this little girls petticoat as she ran threw the screen door...no I don't.

[biggamehunter]

 

[high country]

I am still on the fence. when hound hunting was banned and republic was over run by cats, I know of at least one that was shot in the yard while the kids were screaming.....wolves are a bit bolder than cats.

[Skillet]

Thanks for finding the rest of the story, Bob.  Mr. Sadler sounds like a concerned citizen that has a story that may have gotten a little better with every telling... and his being a sudden "wolf expert" is pretty comical.  But facts are facts, and he still had a dog attacked by a wolf in his own yard.  He did the right thing, IMHO.

ALL SHEET !! I am sorry  I have not become the LINK MASTER YET 

"ALL SHEET", really?  I might point out here that changed the story when you reported it.  According to what Bob provided for us, the IDFG made not comment for the story.  It was Mr. Sadler that made the comment about the wolves hating each other.

And what's the reference to Sitka_Blacktail about?  Did I miss something?

[Skillet]

I am still on the fence. when hound hunting was banned and republic was over run by cats, I know of at least one that was shot in the yard while the kids were screaming.....wolves are a bit bolder than cats.

   No doubt, hound hunting was the single most effective cougar management tool we had.

[BOWHUNTER45]

o.k ...just give me a like button 

[Sitka_Blacktail]

I have NO doubt they were around his house.  They have GPS tracked several wolves that hang out near farm houses in OR.  They hang out near the cattle herds etc...  I just think the story was embellished a bit.  Do I think they will pose a danger to children, yes I do.  Do I think a pack of wolves were snapping at this little girls petticoat as she ran threw the screen door...no I don't.

I agree Machias. But one might wonder, if he lied about the other stuff, who knows if the original story was true?

And for the record, (not pointed at you Machias) I don't think wolves belong in town, and I believe problem wolves need to be dealt with swiftly and efficiently.  Same as human predators.

I'll check this story out with my brother who lives in Wallace.

[frostman]

Thanks for finding the rest of the story, Bob.  Mr. Sadler sounds like a concerned citizen that has a story that may have gotten a little better with every telling... and his being a sudden "wolf expert" is pretty comical.  But facts are facts, and he still had a dog attacked by a wolf in his own yard.  He did the right thing, IMHO.

ALL SHEET !! I am sorry  I have not become the LINK MASTER YET 

"ALL SHEET", really?  I might point out here that changed the story when you reported it.  According to what Bob provided for us, the IDFG made not comment for the story.  It was Mr. Sadler that made the comment about the wolves hating each other.

And what's the reference to Sitka_Blacktail about?  Did I miss something?

Sitka-Blacktail is a wolf denier. He believes that large human populations and exploding wolf populations should co-exist and that they are just misunderstood cute little creatures -
He started this thread - http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,89519.0/topicseen.html
Flame on!!!

[Sumpnneedskillin]

Idaho official clears wolves in fatal dog attack
http://www.krem.com/news/local/Idaho-official-clears-wolves-in-fatal-dog-attack-137504223.html

"Idaho Fish and Game official Josh Stanley says he could find no evidence of wolf tracks in the snow where the domestic dog was killed Wednesday about a mile north of Wallace."

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Idaho official clears wolves in fatal dog attack
http://www.krem.com/news/local/Idaho-official-clears-wolves-in-fatal-dog-attack-137504223.html

"Idaho Fish and Game official Josh Stanley says he could find no evidence of wolf tracks in the snow where the domestic dog was killed Wednesday about a mile north of Wallace."

Thanks for clearing that up Sumpinneedskillin.  Looks like it could have been an old fashioned dog fight. This whole thread has been based on bad information. Par for the course.

And Frosty, "He believes that large human populations and exploding wolf populations should co-exist and that they are just misunderstood cute little creatures"  I have been preaching that they can exist.  But show me where I said anything about wolves being misunderstood cute little creatures. If you wanna have credibility that is.

[frostman]

OK Sitka, you are right.

BUT, you began a thread (and stoked the flames) that has reached 20+ pages defending these killing machines, don't deny it.

I think that all of us would agree that you can not change history and wolves WERE extirpated from the lower 48 in the last century.

Now, with your support, wolves are being re-introduced into the lower 48 and there IS human-wolf conflict and there WILL be reduced game populations.

This state, in particular, is going to move forward with a wolf "recovery" program (based on very poor, emotion based "science") even though the wolves are naturally re-introducing themselves.

Also, our insane liberal controlled state in additon to moving forward with a wolf "recovery" (read as re-introduction) program is implementing a management plan that calls for a MINIMUM of 15 breeding pairs. This is the same number of breeding pairs that Montana has pegged in its management plan, a state that has HALF as many people and TWICE the numbers of deer and elk as Washinton.

By denying that wolves are NOT making an impact on game populations or creating conflict with humans, livestock and yes, pets, you are the one with credibility issues.

Dude, if you truly are a sportsman / conservationist then add your voice to the rest of us on this site and work towards a realisitic management solution in our state. Contact your state representation and request they rescind the current mangement plan and remove anti-hunting liberals from the game commission. The conservation leaders on this site have made it very easy for you to do.

I challenge you to show your true colors, Sitka. Friend or foe? If friend, then all due respect.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

frostman, I too have been preaching "manage them".  Eliminating isn't managing. I have already stated that problem wolves should be dealt with swiftly and permanently. I'm no bleeding heart.
Once we are freed up to hunt them, wolves will learn that human contact isn't good for them. That won't happen until we get to the business of managing them.

Threads like this one and others I've seen, based on bad info or false info don't do much for our credibility. Neither do threads that just bash wolves or people who don't agree that wolves are the end of the world.

[BOWHUNTER45]

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_1adf886b-cd2d-55f1-a90d-b50eb7f8c0f2.html

O.k since I am gettin so much rap on this little comment I have made here is where I got the info from .... 

[BOWHUNTER45]

My daughter helped me out on this ...see I am still learning computer skills

[villageidiot]

I see some of you still think that once we reach the 15 breeding pairs they will start managing them.  If this were actually going to happen we all would be stupid for standing in the way of slowing down the growth till they reached the goal.  Problem is that both Idaho and Montana reached their objective goal years ago and lawsuits were filed to prevent them from managing them.  It happened multiple times till they have gotten over run with wolves.  Now they are a menace.  Does anyone actually think this Green state with the huge enviromental base in Seattle will ever let managing happen here?   Dream on!