Author Topic: Check out these Pennsylvania Bulls! WOW! (Read 10644 times)

C-Money · « **on:** January 17, 2012, 10:32:33 AM »

Here is a link to some of the bulls taken in Pennsylvanias elk season. There are some real monsters!
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2526277&nt=4&fpart=1

C-Money · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:36:25 AM »

One of the quotes....

Dog,
Yes those are all PA elk. Infact I just found out that the one is the new state record non-typical. It officially sccores 442 6/8" net B & C. Beating the previous bull by 1".
Jack (ECO)

That is huge!

GreggHunts2hard4u · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:38:46 AM »

holy crap those PA elk are huge!!

rosscrazyelk · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:12:57 AM »

They have only ben hunting bulls in penn for about 5 years now. Those bulls had lots of time to grow..

TheHunt · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:33:22 AM »

I have put in for the elk hunt twice and was not drawn. Than kids in college and kid wedding. Sure takes a beating on your funds. I also talked to the fish and game players down there. He said many of the monsters are on private land.

kenzmad · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:36:02 AM »

not a bad morning hunt eh? how do you get 3 elk that size into the back of a truck?

Camp David · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:53:17 AM »

absolute monsters

3dsheetmetal · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:20:27 PM »

And to think I moved out here from Pa. to Wa. to hunt elk. :dunno:I wonder why they have that quality of elk ,maybe because the aren't hunted 6 months out of the year and have unlimited harvest.Go figure

C-Money · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:25:03 PM »

PA really takes good care of those animals. very limited elk tags available, but it is not out of the question to get drawn. No one in my family has, but they will keep trying!

Kowsrule30 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:33:18 PM »

Great bulls!!!!! Some really cool genetics over there.....

HUNTINCOUPLE · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2012, 12:42:27 PM »

BOY HOWDY!!! Makes me sick to think that washington could have all that and more with proper game management. Not money management.

PlateauNDN · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:09:58 PM »

Nice bulls. I like the dark color in the antlers.

I followed the link and some of these bulls share some of the same characteristics as the bull from the Hanford thread, IMO?

Is there a nuclear reservation located near these bulls?

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2012, 01:52:22 PM »

O.K Now you all know about Pa and the big bulls I can now tell ya a little story ..... Back in 1984 I believe me and my dad and uncle were hunting in ELK Co. P.a and we were sitting in a tavern having a beer...well actually I was drinking a pepsi

so anyway we are all having a good time after hunting all day when all the sudden this Hunter comes running in the tavern ( blackman) just saying ! screaming his head off I JUST SHOT THE BIGGEST FRICKEN DEER TO EVER LAYED EYES ... Now you all can imagine how excited these dudes get

So anyway he leaves with his 2 buddies and a couple yours they show up with the biggest fricken 7x8 you ever layed eyes on ....A HUGE 7X8 BULL ELK

EVERYONE goes out to see it and all the hunters started saying ...you frickin idiot you shot an elk

This is a true no bullsheet story !!!!!! They figure Pa will produce the new world record sometime in the near future!!!!

C-Money · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:00:47 PM »

Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on January 17, 2012, 01:52:22 PM

O.K Now you all know about Pa and the big bulls I can now tell ya a little story ..... Back in 1984 I believe me and my dad and uncle were hunting in ELK Co. P.a and we were sitting in a tavern having a beer...well actually I was drinking a pepsi so anyway we are all having a good time after hunting all day when all the sudden this Hunter comes running in the tavern ( blackman) just saying ! screaming his head off I JUST SHOT THE BIGGEST FRICKEN DEER TO EVER LAYED EYES ... Now you all can imagine how excited these dudes get So anyway he leaves with his 2 buddies and a couple yours they show up with the biggest fricken 7x8 you ever layed eyes on ....A HUGE 7X8 BULL ELK EVERYONE goes out to see it and all the hunters started saying ...you frickin idiot you shot an elk This is a true no bullsheet story !!!!!! They figure Pa will produce the new world record sometime in the near future!!!!

Funny story. I belive PA will kick out the next World record. I have only one question.....were you guys eating hot chicken wings in that tavern? Its just not right to have a beer in a PA tavern and not sample a dozen hot wings!

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:09:10 PM »

Hell I was a junior in high school way back then

hopefully I get back next spring to kill a few long beards ....

C-Money · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2012, 02:19:20 PM »

Me too. A PA turkey hunt is long over due. I just need to figure out when to go.

bone head · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:20:20 PM »

what high fence area was this in Pa i'd love to go there but it probably costs a fortune to shoot a pet like that

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:27:29 PM »

No they are not in a high fence ...Well at least not the ones I know about .... I see colars on some of them .... heck maybe those ones are .. but their has always been a population in Elk Co. P.a ever since I was a kid and longer... I had to move to Wa. to take my biggest bull

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:31:08 PM »

Quote from: bone head on January 17, 2012, 03:20:20 PM

what high fence area was this in Pa i'd love to go there but it probably costs a fortune to shoot a pet like that

Don't know where this one came from. I think all these bulls are free range. I don't see anything that has to do with a high fence. One big hint is that they have tags on them. In a high fence area "most the time high fence hunts do not require tags on the animals like that"

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:35:32 PM »

Quote from: carpsniperg2 on January 17, 2012, 03:31:08 PM

Quote from: bone head on January 17, 2012, 03:20:20 PM
what high fence area was this in Pa i'd love to go there but it probably costs a fortune to shoot a pet like that

Don't know where this one came from. I think all these bulls are free range. I don't see anything that has to do with a high fence. One big hint is that they have tags on them. In a high fence area "most the time high fence hunts do not require tags on the animals like that"

good point

AKBowman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:40:21 PM »

It may not be "high fenced" but its a close second. Anytime you end up with 3 bulls like that in the back of a pick up in a morning of "hunting" its not really "hunting". Looks like they got to have a nice ride on the 4 wheeler though!

To each his own I guess, just not my cup of tea. I'd rather bowhunt public land and get skunked, and that is the truth!

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:45:39 PM »

We don't know what it was like so lets not try to guess. It couls have been that they were miles apart and the truck that had the means to pick them up whole went around and loaded them up from the different areas. Lets keep it on track and not get off subject by guessing

C-Money · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2012, 03:46:11 PM »

They are free range elk. A good place to look for them is around Benezette, PA. Lots of info on them if you google. They are a great success story, doing very well, and Pennsylvanins are very proud of them. Lots of forest and farm ground there, plenty of food and places to hide. No High fence.
Elk County is in an area known to locals called "The Big Woods". Its a good place to have a GPS or a compas.

Bantams · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:20:53 PM »

Last year, PA awarded 56 licenses (18 antlered, 38 antlerless) for elk. Over 18,000 entered the raffle, both PA and non-resident. The herd numbers somewhere over 500.

I hear it's like shooting fish in a barrel... the challenge is in getting drawn for the hunt.

bobcat · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:32:10 PM »

Quote from: Bantams on January 17, 2012, 04:20:53 PM

Last year, PA awarded 56 licenses (18 antlered, 38 antlerless) for elk. Over 18,000 entered the raffle, both PA and non-resident. The herd numbers somewhere over 500.

I hear it's like shooting fish in a barrel... the challenge is in getting drawn for the hunt.

Sounds similar to our moose hunting here in Washington. Odds of drawing are about the same too.

Ridgerunner · « **Reply #25 on:** January 17, 2012, 04:39:17 PM »

pretty incredible bulls for sure.

BOWHUNTER45 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 17, 2012, 05:21:37 PM »

Quote from: C-Money on January 17, 2012, 03:46:11 PM

They are free range elk. A good place to look for them is around Benezette, PA. Lots of info on them if you google. They are a great success story, doing very well, and Pennsylvanins are very proud of them. Lots of forest and farm ground there, plenty of food and places to hide. No High fence.
Elk County is in an area known to locals called "The Big Woods". Its a good place to have a GPS or a compas.

Yeah for sure on that .... Northern P.a is big woods alright ... Elk Co & Warren co is where my family hunts ...rolling hills will mess you up quicker than being in the mountains ... and for all my turkey hunting buddies if you want a serious challenge go back there and find some gobblers to chase

SniperDanWA · « **Reply #27 on:** January 17, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »

Nice set(s) of horn there.

Craig · « **Reply #28 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:23:03 PM »

Awesome bulls. I sure like the dark antlers the bulls have over there. Don't let the Mossback crew see these. They might pack up and head east.

groundhog · « **Reply #29 on:** January 19, 2012, 10:40:35 AM »

Some nice bulls. Is it just me or do all of the bulls on the PA link look a little goofy? Almost everyone of them is a non typical. I love the dark antlers but it seems like maybe they started with a small group of elk and did not have enough genetic diversity. You don't see any big classic typicals. Maybe its just me....

bone head · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2012, 04:33:45 PM »

Quote from: AKBowman on January 17, 2012, 03:40:21 PM

It may not be "high fenced" but its a close second. Anytime you end up with 3 bulls like that in the back of a pick up in a morning of "hunting" its not really "hunting". Looks like they got to have a nice ride on the 4 wheeler though!

To each his own I guess, just not my cup of tea. I'd rather bowhunt public land and get skunked, and that is the truth!

C-Money · « **Reply #31 on:** January 19, 2012, 06:05:36 PM »

Quote from: groundhog on January 19, 2012, 10:40:35 AM

Some nice bulls. Is it just me or do all of the bulls on the PA link look a little goofy? Almost everyone of them is a non typical. I love the dark antlers but it seems like maybe they started with a small group of elk and did not have enough genetic diversity. You don't see any big classic typicals. Maybe its just me....

The biologist thought the herd was doomed for a lot of years back in the early 80's due to inbreeding. Hey, they survived, and are doing remarkably well! I wonder if this did lead to the crazy racks? I like them though

!

Turner89 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 19, 2012, 06:41:26 PM »

Are those elk Rocky mt. Or roosevelt Or something else?

C-Money · « **Reply #33 on:** January 19, 2012, 08:06:06 PM »

I think they came from Yellowstone.

C-Money · « **Reply #34 on:** January 19, 2012, 08:09:05 PM »

From paelk.com

Even though elk are native to Pennsylvania the ones we currently enjoy are not. Due to over hunting the native elk herd was devastated and by 1877 it is widely accepted that no more than a handful of elk survived in the state with many experts believing the number was actually closer to 0. The elk that roam around now are actually descendants of Rocky Mountain elk that the PA Game Commission brought in between 1913 - 1926. Some even coming from Yellowstone National Park.

SI Eagle · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2012, 07:04:04 AM »

Dandy's for sure

D-Rock425 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2012, 07:47:22 AM »

That would be a good last day bull here in Washington

strutnrut1984 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 24, 2012, 12:53:59 PM »

i grew up watching those elk moved here from pa in 04. its a once in a lifetime draw , they draw 25 bull and 25 cow permits for year. and u have to have a guide. currently the herd numbers around 850 animals spread out over 4 or 5 counties in the north central part of the state.

Hungry Horse · « **Reply #38 on:** February 01, 2012, 02:26:34 AM »

A guide is not required to hunt Pa elk. Guides are available to hire, but you are free to hunt without their services. I believe a guide might have access to private land due to lease arrangements, but there is a lot of public land available in all units, more so in some units than others. The herd is approximatley 750 animals, with a new herd beginning to grow in the Sproul State Forest, east of the original elk herd. Animals were trapped and relocated a few years ago to start the new herd in the Sproul State Forest, but that area has not been opened for elk hunting as of 2011. The elk were initially brought in from Yellowstone NP as stated, as the Pa original elk herd had been over hunted with the last Pa elk being killed in the 1920's, I believe. If you google the Pa Game Commission, you can find a complete review of the history of the elk herd on their web site. There is a new multi million dollar elk visitor museum on Winslow Hill in the Benezette, Pa area. There you can see a interactive movie, talk with biologist, and view the many wildlife displays of animals of the region. Outside there are trails you may walk leading you to meadows designed to create feeding areas for the elk and your viewing pleasure. There are horse drawn wagons for visitors to ride in to view the elk in areas beyond the normal pathways viewing. There is a gift souvenior shop where items related to Pa and the elk herd can be purchased. I believe all proceeds, or a portionof them, go towards maintaining the elk center. In late September it is the place to go to enjoy viewing the rutting bugling elk. There are also 2 additional viewing areas planted with vegetation for the elk palate and to enjoy the viewing opportunity. I have watched many knock down roll the satellite or challenging bulls to the ground for hours in the rutting season. It is a great time and the museum and staff are very cordial and knowledgeable on the Pa elk herd. As said, it seems to be true that many of the Pa elk, the real bruisers, are non typical in rack formation. A resident of Pa, I have gone to see the elk every fall since 1997. Most folks who had I believe 7 preference points were drawing winners, but there are a very limited number of cow and bull tags available as mentioned. Pa elk probally loose some calf recruitment to Pa back bears, and perhaps coyotes, and cars, but on the whole are unmolested, fat and happy, in the Pa elk range. There is no hunting allowed around the Pa elk viewing areas and the museum areas, unless there is a special need for reduction of numbers in certain areas. The local herd does do damage to cars and plantings, hanging clothing on clothlines in the fall. The big bulls often frequent the local communiy of Benezette, backyards gardens, and might be watching you in a adjacent backyard as you approach the local motel/restraunt dining area, as I saw last fall. But the elk herd further away from the local community of Benezette, will offer you a challenging hunt. They learn quickly to seek cover as the week long hunt progresses from day 1 or 2. Visit the Pa Game Commission for more information on seasons and lisc fees for residents and non-residents. The odds are great on drawing a tag, but usually some 50 to 80 folks are given a great opportunity at trophy animals. The Pa elk season is normally the 1st part of November. Pa game comm web site http://www.pgc.state.pa.us It is only $10.70 to apply for a elk tag, but additional fees if drawn, please see the attached link for additional information. HH in Pa

C-Money · « **Reply #39 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:50:37 AM »

Nice write up Hungry Horse, good info.

summit creek · « **Reply #40 on:** February 09, 2012, 06:48:28 PM »

Quote from: GreggHunts2hard4u on January 17, 2012, 10:38:46 AM

holy crap those PA elk are huge!!

those bulls were planted years ago looks like the habitats doing its job

Ellensburg · « **Reply #41 on:** February 09, 2012, 10:29:33 PM »

The genetics are freaky.

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