min pts to draw desert A or the swakane unit?

[WDFW-SUX]

The reason other states were tricked into it is because there are a ton of baby boomers that were nearing the end of there time hunting and felt like they needed a added advantage in the draws.  It screwed everone else.  The backlog of applicants will never in the next 50 years get to folks who started applying more that 5 years after the beggining of the point system. The math does not lie.

 

[Slider]

Passions right!!! The only one's to benifit would be Max Point holders. You would simply be slitting your own throat!!!

[wastickslinger]

But dont the max point guys deserve the OIL tags???

[Dry creek]

i like the idea of two animals  to draw for deer&elk - elk&moose - sheep&moose ext. it wood improve your odds greatly!!!

[WDFW-SUX]

My vote is for Deer or elk and 1/3 for sheep, goat, moose.

[Skyvalhunter]

Well I think a better way to improve the odds is to limit the number of big game permits to non residents to say like 10%. Same as other some other states do. You know as well as I do that there are non residents out there putting in for special permits and this is driving up the odds. That and given the fact that you don't have to buy a license to apply for sheep, goat, and moose unless drawn.

[Dry creek]

the app fee for non-res is 55$ per animal i don't think it will change your odds.

[Skyvalhunter]

Think again it's just like Az($125) where you have to buy a lisc to put in and get a preference point. If you don't think Non residents are putting out $55 for a chance to draw to a moose, sheep or goat you are mistakened.

[WDFW-SUX]

the app fee for non-res is 55$ per animal i don't think it will change your odds.

Trust me on this when I say that there are people who spend thousands of dollars per year on applications and licences and $165 bucks doesn't even make them flinch.  I agree that we need to strictly limit the number of tags that go to non residents.  I would say one tag for moose and sheep and no tags for goat is about right.

[Skyvalhunter]

I second that motion!!

[Curly]

Everyone has to purchase a tag first for deer or elk, and for non-residents at $395 each, in addition to the $55 app fee; that should limit the non-res applicants for deer and elk.  But Moose, sheep, and goat they only have to spend the $55 app fee, and don't have to purchase the tag unless they draw.  So, I could see where a lot of non-res are probably applying for moose, sheep, and goat.......

[Dry creek]

i disagree i apply in Oregon, Montana and Wyoming and eventual i am granted to get drawn or my odds. in Montana for moose,goat and sheep my odds will go up in time 20% draw odds, in washington i don't care if you have max 1% till you die

[andrew_12gauge]

a max point system on deer and elk permits may work not with sheep, goat and moose it would never work there are probably 10000 guys out there with "max" points for the OIL tags and there really is no max with bonus points for turning in poachers and such. the states that have a max point system are states with a preference point system where only those with points can draw and at a certain point you are guaranteed usually you can know to the exact year when you will draw. so no i dont wanna set aside permits for those with max points especially since no matter what there will never be a max number of points one can have. some of us may die with 50 points for sheep goat and moose and thats just the way its gonna be

[Ironhead]

True story Skyvalley, not only should we limit the NR's to up to 10%, but make them buy a non refundable 150.00 dollar liscence and then charge them another 20.00 per application for and another 15.00 per animal for bonus pts.

[bobcat]

what do you guys think it takes for min. pts to draw swakane or the desrt A tag i missed with 9 pts this year.

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