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It is a great misconception that bulk equals strength or that in order to get stronger you have to gain weight. That is a 1980's methodology and been proven wrong many moons ago. That is why isolation training is not that effective in gaining overall strength. It will make that muscle group stronger but it is completely non-functional and can actually lead to severe injury. Think about it this way...when you go to raise your pack are you using 1,2, or even 3 muscle groups in isolation. Outside of the gym I would challenge anyone to come up with any functional facet of life where a single muscle group is used in isolation. Just in the simple act of putting your pack on (when loaded) you are using most of your body. So why would you train those muscles in isolation. None of the top atheletes in the world use any isolation lifts. Why would we?
Quote from: Seabass on January 28, 2012, 03:26:06 PMIt is a great misconception that bulk equals strength or that in order to get stronger you have to gain weight. That is a 1980's methodology and been proven wrong many moons ago. That is why isolation training is not that effective in gaining overall strength. It will make that muscle group stronger but it is completely non-functional and can actually lead to severe injury. Think about it this way...when you go to raise your pack are you using 1,2, or even 3 muscle groups in isolation. Outside of the gym I would challenge anyone to come up with any functional facet of life where a single muscle group is used in isolation. Just in the simple act of putting your pack on (when loaded) you are using most of your body. So why would you train those muscles in isolation. None of the top atheletes in the world use any isolation lifts. Why would we?That's where the plyometrics and the aerobics come into play. And you are not correct when you say that athletes dont do iso training, almost ALL of the highest level athletes do isolation lifting (Professional basketball, football, hockey, golf even olympic sprinters etc, etc) You think Michael Johnson got those arms and back from Crossfit? I dont think so. What would you call it when they test BENCH PRESS at the NFL combine? I would call that an isolation lift and those guys are the top athletes in the world. Weight lifting is definitely a must if you want to have rounded out form and overall strength also definitely a must to mix in aerobics, plyo type exercises, stretching and Crossfit type exercises.I think we all respect the way the Crossfit guys choose to work out, theres no doubt its intense and great for rounding out your strength and stability but I know how to get in to great shape and isolation weight lifting is a big part of it.Good luck this year!
What would you call it when they test BENCH PRESS at the NFL combine? I would call that an isolation lift and those guys are the top athletes in the world.
Quote from: AKBowman on January 28, 2012, 06:42:49 PMWhat would you call it when they test BENCH PRESS at the NFL combine? I would call that an isolation lift and those guys are the top athletes in the world. Actually, performed correctly a bench press is a very large COMPOUND movement. Something like a curl, commonly referred to as an isolation movement is also a compound movement. A bench press uses just about every muscle group in your body if performed correctly, from triceps, back, shoulders, forearms, chest, abs, quads, even hamstrings. Ever had a cramp in your hips or hammie when benching? I sure have. And even the lowly curls use not just biceps, but also forearms, traps, triceps, abs and thighs when performed heavily enough. Try curling 200lbs using only biceps..... A deadlift and squats are a whole-body movement. They utilize every muscle group from your ears to your toes and everyone who plans on carrying a heavy pack will benefit more from them than any other sort of work. You want cardio work with weight? Try squatting 405 for 20 reps taking 5 minutes to complete it and then check your heart rate I've done just about everything you can think of in the past 3 decades of work in the gym, from HIT to Tabata to Crossfit to Dragondoor Kettlebells to Olympic lifting to powerlifting. When push comes to shove I feel best on the trail and seriously seldom even tire, when powerlifting. Not performing just singles, but using the powerlifts using medium to higher reps. I consider everything outside of powerlifting to be just a fad............ But again seriously, imagine how trails feel when you can squat 2X bodyweight for over 20 reps, 2 1/2 times BW deadlifts for over 20 reps, bench press 1 1/2 times your BW for 10 reps and chin with 100lbs around your waist for 10 reps. You just don't get tired. 44
Let me preface this with the fact that I'm no gazelle. As a comparison to the following paces, I'll usually do Bloomsday in 53-55 minutes.Pace really varies by the terrain involved. If it's a pretty flat and non tecnnical course, somewhere in the neighborhood of a 10 minute mile. If it's technical with some tough uphills that require walking/powerhiking, then it'll be around 12-15 minutes per mile.And of course heat and altitude play a huge role too.
