Could be Weyerhouser property. I know just what you mean, but I don't have an answer for you. I have had many times where I have scouted an area in the summer, found great area and elk, then opening morning its either A) an open gate or B) 17 rigs parked at the gate. The best way is to either learn from experience or hope someone can offer advice, which can be pretty tough since most people are tight lipped about their hunting spots especially elk.