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Offline blacktailcrzy

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2012, 08:11:10 PM »
If it aint broke dont fix it. The 8th thru the 20th or whatever was IMO working well. The 1st thru the 14th was horrible.... it wasnt so much rut timing as the heat and most importantly fire closures.

  :yeah: sound about right to me

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2012, 08:23:54 PM »
If it aint broke dont fix it. The 8th thru the 20th or whatever was IMO working well. The 1st thru the 14th was horrible.... it wasnt so much rut timing as the heat and most importantly fire closures.

  :yeah: sound about right to me

THe problem was it was working toooo well.  These dates will reduce the success rates which is most likely the rationale behind the decision.
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2012, 08:27:00 PM »
If it aint broke dont fix it. The 8th thru the 20th or whatever was IMO working well. The 1st thru the 14th was horrible.... it wasnt so much rut timing as the heat and most importantly fire closures.

  :yeah: sound about right to me

THe problem was it was working toooo well.  These dates will reduce the success rates which is most likely the rationale behind the decision.

You just used the word "rationale: when talking about "their" decision making... NOT!
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2012, 08:30:47 PM »
So how do you get a heard population up? By taking days away? By moving away from the prime rut to allow bulls to breed and no cows to be taken in the late season?
 Any idea on tag cost this year? I bet they go up.
Just makes sense to them I guess and not us hunters.

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »
One other thing, in years past at the 3 year planning meetings there was alot of discussion from archers about moving the start of the archery season later in the month.  For sure some of it centered around trying to get closer to the rut, BUT a huge percentage of the complaints was due to the warm temps of the early Sep.

I guess they listened,...and then did the opposite!
I am a little confused about the rut thing :dunno: You are not getting any closer to the rut in early bow season ...maybe if it started in late October  :o :dunno:

Talking about the elk rut, not the deer rut. Does that clarify things?
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2012, 10:09:59 PM »
One other thing, in years past at the 3 year planning meetings there was alot of discussion from archers about moving the start of the archery season later in the month.  For sure some of it centered around trying to get closer to the rut, BUT a huge percentage of the complaints was due to the warm temps of the early Sep.

I guess they listened,...and then did the opposite!
I am a little confused about the rut thing :dunno: You are not getting any closer to the rut in early bow season ...maybe if it started in late October  :o :dunno:

Talking about the elk rut, not the deer rut. Does that clarify things?

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2012, 10:44:07 PM »
It doesn't bother me too much as long as they don't limit the amount of days.
If I'm not hunting Branched Antlered Big Bulls, I would rather be hunting the Pre-Rut for Spikes.
I would rather have the cows and spikes being pushed around by the bulls, than have the Herd Bull holin' up the spikes and cows in small pockets. 

Don't get me wrong...the wdfw has their head up their  :beatdeadhorse: when it comes to all Archery seasons and permits.  I just assume Washington DFW will make it worse and worse, and more screwed up every year.  I am waiting to use up my 10 points on everything, then get out, and then focus more of my time and money on other states.
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2012, 01:57:43 AM »
funny thing is I have yet to arrow a bull in NE WA since they went away from the Sept 1 opener... I killed all my bulls on the first 3 days in Sept in WA...I like the early... bulls will come into calls with no cows and searching....another thing is Wallows are more active early...great places to ambush elk

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2012, 04:19:36 AM »
As soonas I use my points for elk in WA I am done. If I have to pay money to fly out west it will be in a state I can hunt the rut.  And where I can hunt branch antlered bulls. So ID, MT or CO here I come. And I have no desire to wait until I have 15 points to draw a deer tag in a place where the bucks are the same size as a general season area in MT, ID or CO.
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2012, 04:26:48 AM »
the only way to get it changed back to later september dates is when you do your reporting...report your "Branch antlered" bull kills the opening dates of september...or just report no kill  ;)

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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2012, 07:18:00 AM »
the only way to get it changed back to later september dates is when you do your reporting...report your "Branch antlered" bull kills the opening dates of september...or just report no kill  ;)

Not true... the move was not becuase of archery success... look at what happened to special permits by moving the archery season forward, what happened to other styles of hunting... they  moved forward...  Best way to get change is to make your voice heard.. emails and phone calls to Dave Ware and Jerry Nelson.... flood them for change.
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2012, 07:22:20 AM »
Too many people were worried about having lights on their arrows versus what might be considered important.


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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2012, 07:29:49 AM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2012, 07:38:02 AM »
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Re: Can't Believe the WDFW!!!!
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2012, 07:38:28 AM »
Too many people were worried about having lights on their arrows versus what might be considered important.

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