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Offline kentrek

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odds of geting a shot on rosys
« on: March 27, 2012, 12:56:35 AM »
on the west side this year i kept a track record of how many bulls we called in...while it was great fun at the end of the day to add to the bull count it was a constant reminder that the dead bull count was zero. this poll might be confusing at first but basically i want to know what your odds of geting a shot at a bull are once you start calling them in..this year we had 23 bulls under 100 and only one ended up with an arrow in it.this seems kinda low(4%) so im kinda curious on what you all have to report.

if you don't keep a hunting journal of some sort and have only a rough idea please try not to stretch the truth

also i know hunting terran/animal/weather is a variable but lets not make this too scientific :tup:

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 01:16:32 AM »
Man!  That is a tough one to answer accurately.  It really depends on the year and the weather.  Last year in the Toutle early archery, which is usually a slam dunk, we bugled only a handful of bulls and got zero shots.  A few years ago in Oregon hunting the Wilson/Trask area with a newbie I was able to call in the first 8 bulls we heard and he missed every single one at less than 30 yards.  One of those bulls I called in three times and he missed three shots.  I finally took him home (even though I wish I could have left him there to walk home).  When I returned a week later I couldn't find a single bull willing to bugle or come in.

In an average year I'd say between 15 and 20 percent.  Average year in the Toutle early archery about 40 to 50%.  I haven't kept a log since I quit guiding so those numbers would be just a guestimate.
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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 03:36:23 AM »
23 bulls called in on the westside  :yike:

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2012, 06:53:23 AM »
this year we had 23 bulls under 100

please try not to stretch the truth


In the same post :chuckle:

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2012, 07:05:32 AM »
All I am saying is if I bugled in 23 bulls and did not kill one I would quit elk hunting or change my a proach on how I was going about it ......AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OF ALL IS LOCATING A BULL AND GETTING INSIDE HIS WHEEL HOUSE BEFORE CALLING TO HIM ....LIKE A 100 YRDS OR CLOSER......AND ARE YOU COUNTING BULLS THAT JUST ANSWERED YOU ?  as bulls you called in .... little difference their .......

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2012, 07:23:18 AM »
This last year I called in six bulls got three shots and took one home, now you said you wanted to know about rosys only, from every thing I have understud was the rosys were only west of I-5, so the winston unit would not be considerd a rosys unit. Over the years I have found that a true rosys do not talk as much as a rocky, at least where I hunt.

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2012, 08:58:33 AM »
This year it was 100%.  Most years I would say it is closer to 50%.

I would credit the high ratio to the tactics we use when calling in Roosevelt bulls.  Get in close, get the wind off to one side slightly (knowing he will half moon trying to get the wind), give the bull no choice but to defend his harem.

I have also become very picky about the setup.  I want multiple shooting lanes (sometimes tough to do here in the brush).  I think some people start calling before they have gone through the process of picking a  setup that will allow them to get a shot off.

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2012, 06:46:11 PM »
23 bulls on the west side? Not trying to rain on you but if it was a general unit there is a good chance some of you were bugling Hunters. I have called numbers that big but not in an general unit. I do keep track too, and the thing I notice is that they cycle though times if silence and times they are vocal. 23 would mean multiple bulls daily, not likely. I call enough bulls to where I get to know certain bulls by voice and attitude. With all that being said I think you could get Ann elk or at least a decent shot opportunity every year if you have time and get away from roads.  :twocents:

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2012, 06:59:39 PM »
23 bulls on the west side? Not trying to rain on you but if it was a general unit there is a good chance some of you were bugling Hunters. I have called numbers that big but not in an general unit. I do keep track too, and the thing I notice is that they cycle though times if silence and times they are vocal. 23 would mean multiple bulls daily, not likely. I call enough bulls to where I get to know certain bulls by voice and attitude. With all that being said I think you could get Ann elk or at least a decent shot opportunity every year if you have time and get away from roads.  :twocents:

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  Me and "PrimeTime" got 8 different bulls to respond to calls on opening day this past year.  None of them were in a very good spot to try and make a setup though.  There are also many days when I have called in multiple bulls in the morning and night.

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2012, 07:00:12 PM »
Ya 23 a year is a TON! 5-8 would be a great year, and out of the 5-8 i know i would take one home out of 1 shot.

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »
I called in 9 bulls last year, 5 days hunting, took no shots, but any one of you that can shoot 40 yards would have taken one home...
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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 07:41:16 PM »
23 bulls on the west side? Not trying to rain on you but if it was a general unit there is a good chance some of you were bugling Hunters. I have called numbers that big but not in an general unit. I do keep track too, and the thing I notice is that they cycle though times if silence and times they are vocal. 23 would mean multiple bulls daily, not likely. I call enough bulls to where I get to know certain bulls by voice and attitude. With all that being said I think you could get Ann elk or at least a decent shot opportunity every year if you have time and get away from roads.  :twocents:

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  Me and "PrimeTime" got 8 different bulls to respond to calls on opening day this past year.  None of them were in a very good spot to try and make a setup though.  There are also many days when I have called in multiple bulls in the morning and night.

x2 on it being all about the set-up. Jason and I hunted in a general area all season long and I would say we were on multiple bulls daily. It all just comes down to the set-up whether or not you're gonna seal the deal. Granted occasionally a bull is going to do the exact opposite as you plan but as Jason stated, we always get in tight, and set up for the bull to come right by while trying to get your wind.   :twocents:

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 07:50:51 PM »
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seems like most hunters stop after mile 3 with out a motor underneath them
WOW !! thats about 2 miles further than where I hunt !! LOL ! must be good hunting !!
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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 08:03:25 PM »
I put 30-50%, Although the last two years have been much higher.... But i didnt include bulls called in that werent the target bull in my calculations.

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Re: odds of geting a shot on rosys
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 08:16:24 PM »
I called in one bull last year on opening morning at light and he died  :chuckle:

 


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