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Offline WAcoyotehunter

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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2012, 02:41:43 PM »
:yeah:

I've heard 777 pellets do not work well with non-209 primers but I'm using loose 777 with no issues.

+1 I love the 777 loose powder.

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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2012, 11:13:59 PM »
Where do you get your german caps?
Take a back road!

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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2012, 12:30:56 PM »
I used to shoot them German caps(musket type). Fell for the whole "they are hotter" advertising hype. One year I got a bad tin of them and now I'm back to CCI. Never an issue with CCI.

The ones I got, they go off, but they are real weak. I had a couple of misfires on elk and was back at camp and had walked outside the tent to fire off a few caps just checking things. I couldnt tell holding the gun, but when I walked back in the tent the guys asked "Whats the deal with your caps? They arent very loud."

So I opened another tin and tried a few of those. Big difference. Went from the sound of a 22 short to that of a 22 mag.

Sometimes my gun would fire, sometimes just pop a cap.

Re-learned a few lessons on that one.
#1: Never go into a hunt with a new untried batch of anything.
#2: If it aint broke, dont fix it till it is.


CCI #11's have set off every load of 777 powder I've placed in front of one. I've gone through lots of them plastic jugs of the stuff.


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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2012, 01:35:44 PM »
Chesapeake

I hope you are indicating #11 Mag caps.. If you hunt in the really cold - sub freezing you will want the mags...
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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2012, 03:17:15 PM »
Sabotloader,

I've used the mag version, but also the standards with never an issue. I hunt SW Washington. Most hunts are in the 40's and wet, with some in the 30's with wet snow.

I've tried most all of it over the years, RWS, CCI, musket, #11, #11mag. Honestly it all worked except the bad tin of the RWS stuff.

Muskets are a bit easier to handle and get on and off the nipple, but the cap holders are much bulkier, and its harder to find a quality made one. Plus they tend to get crushed up in the dispenser in the heat of battle or if the spring catch piece is too stiff. The wing dings just dont make them very friendly to inline dispensers.

I've had the charge fall out of musket caps. Never had that with a #11 yet. But I check them all. Green in a RWS and Salmon colored in a CCI.

#11's have nice little dispensers, they also fit 1 each sealed in a TC spead loader for backup. I say backup cause the one in the cap is harder to put on the nipple than one from a dispenser. They dont crush up in the dispensers.

I've done testing and the gains in velocity between a musket cap and a #11 were minimal. Somewhat less than 100 FPS as I remember.

I carry my dispenser around my neck or tied on my belt and in my pocket and the musket caps didnt handle the sweat and moisture as well as the #11's do.

I change out my caps after every days hunt and put them in a tin marked with a "P" for practice. Each day starts with fresh caps. From then using the practice tin on the range over the years I've found that the #11's survive almost everything I put them through, while the musket caps didnt fare so well. It makes for an interesting data point, though not very scientific or controlled.






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Re: Triple Seven
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2012, 10:23:02 AM »
:yeah:

I've heard 777 pellets do not work well with non-209 primers but I'm using loose 777 with no issues.

Correct, the issue has been with pellets, not loose 777.
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