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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #195 on: August 30, 2012, 06:13:21 PM »
Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.


No you were saying that the starting weight of a Mystery Ranch is 10lbs more than a Kifaru.  Which is false. It's 2.5 lbs. I know because I went to both websites and looked it up. And your body won't notice 2.5 lbs. The difference will be in how the pack fits that individual.

Kenetrek I agree 10lbs difference between packs would be redicoulous if it were true but its not true. It's only 2.5lbs. 

Really??   Go back and read my post.  Then read fillthefreezers post above it that I was responding too.    Then read my WHOLE post again.   

I do see what you highlighted, and perhaps it was a poor choice of wording since I wasn't using the "difference" in weights....  But I also wasn't comparing anything.  Just pointing out that an empty 10lb pack is ridiculous.

By "additional starting weight"  I was referring to the weight above and beyond your actual gear you are filling the pack with.  Hence my reference to 60 lbs of gear = 70 lb pack weight.   I couldn't give two craps about a kiafaru or MR pack...

So feel free to do all the comparisons you want, but I'm not interested...  I've got a system, and it works.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2012, 06:22:26 PM by Miles »

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #196 on: August 30, 2012, 06:36:06 PM »
Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.


No you were saying that the starting weight of a Mystery Ranch is 10lbs more than a Kifaru.  Which is false. It's 2.5 lbs. I know because I went to both websites and looked it up. And your body won't notice 2.5 lbs. The difference will be in how the pack fits that individual.

Kenetrek I agree 10lbs difference between packs would be redicoulous if it were true but its not true. It's only 2.5lbs.


no im saying that 10 pound pack is alil sily in the first place....sory no offence intended....im an ultra light kinda guy..no frills..stop crying an get used to it type of motto...im working on a custom pack thats gona be in the 2 pound range,prolly gona end up very simular to the kuiu pack cept shorter in height.. but im not selling it so im not worried bout it..all i want is a pack that can hold up to 150 pounds over 15 miles....and be in the 2 pound range..but what do i know im only 21 sooo prolly shouldnt listen to me  :chuckle:

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #197 on: August 30, 2012, 06:43:38 PM »
We're both on the same page with regards to the 10 lb pack being ridiculous.   Colockumelk is off on a helicopter ride by himself...   :chuckle:

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #198 on: August 30, 2012, 07:24:51 PM »
Okay I guess I misunderstood what you are saying. For reference I don't own either of those packs. I own the MR Longbow for a lot of reasons. Mostly because for all the things I want in a pack that certain pack met all my requirements. None of the others did.  But those were MY requirements. Like you I have a system that works for me. 

Wasn't trying to sell one pack or the other. But a lot of kifaru guys over exagerate the weight of a MR pack and under exagerate the weight of a kifaru. So when you said the 10lb difference I thought you were doing this and was only trying to set the record straight.

And Kenetrek if you design a pack that can haul a 150lb load like a boss and weigh 2 pounds then I suggest you patent that design and prepare to start making a lot of money.   
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #199 on: August 30, 2012, 08:00:49 PM »
Okay I guess I misunderstood what you are saying. For reference I don't own either of those packs. I own the MR Longbow for a lot of reasons. Mostly because for all the things I want in a pack that certain pack met all my requirements. None of the others did.  But those were MY requirements. Like you I have a system that works for me. 

Wasn't trying to sell one pack or the other. But a lot of kifaru guys over exagerate the weight of a MR pack and under exagerate the weight of a kifaru. So when you said the 10lb difference I thought you were doing this and was only trying to set the record straight.

And Kenetrek if you design a pack that can haul a 150lb load like a boss and weigh 2 pounds then I suggest you patent that design and prepare to start making a lot of money.   

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Got ya!  Not a kiafaru or MR fan, so I sure as heck wasn't pounding that drum.   I see why you got all worked up now... :chuckle:

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #200 on: August 30, 2012, 09:08:27 PM »
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Nah I don't care what pack people buy. Just as long as they like it and it works for them. I generally recommend packs made in America but other than that I support Nimrod, Kifaru, KUIU, Oregon Pack Works, Wilderness Pack Specialties, Mystery Ranch, Bull Pacs, Horn Hunter, Barney, etc. Go America!!! :tup:
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #201 on: August 30, 2012, 09:25:30 PM »
im working on a custom pack thats gona be in the 2 pound range,prolly gona end up very simular to the kuiu pack cept shorter in height.. but im not selling it so im not worried bout it..all i want is a pack that can hold up to 150 pounds over 15 miles....and be in the 2 pound range..but what do i know im only 21 sooo prolly shouldnt listen to me  :chuckle:

OK, you've got my interest. I would love to see this when you get it complete. If it turns out good is there any chance you can take some pics or show us the design on how to build one on our own?

Curious as to how you would accomplish this and have it still be functional. Are we talking about just attaching a compression sack to a hacked up frame, or will it be an actual "pack" with some niceties like blatter holster, ventilated meat carrier, tie outs for attaching bulky items???

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #202 on: August 30, 2012, 10:39:39 PM »
Also, I don't care how many people say "oh but the pack fits so nice that you don't feel the weight".   BS.   Your knees, ankles, and feet are still being subjected to 10lbs of additional starting weight... I don't care how it fits on your back.


No you were saying that the starting weight of a Mystery Ranch is 10lbs more than a Kifaru.  Which is false. It's 2.5 lbs. I know because I went to both websites and looked it up. And your body won't notice 2.5 lbs. The difference will be in how the pack fits that individual.

Kenetrek I agree 10lbs difference between packs would be redicoulous if it were true but its not true. It's only 2.5lbs.


no im saying that 10 pound pack is alil sily in the first place....sory no offence intended....im an ultra light kinda guy..no frills..stop crying an get used to it type of motto...im working on a custom pack thats gona be in the 2 pound range,prolly gona end up very simular to the kuiu pack cept shorter in height.. but im not selling it so im not worried bout it..all i want is a pack that can hold up to 150 pounds over 15 miles....and be in the 2 pound range..but what do i know im only 21 sooo prolly shouldnt listen to me  :chuckle:

Damn, only 21??  You're making me feel old........I've been backpacking longer than you've been alive

                                                                                                                           

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #203 on: August 30, 2012, 11:18:38 PM »
its gona be a zero frills pack.....carbon fiber frame,water proof simple 3 pocket bag,meat flap,fast remove bow/rifle holder..prolly wont fit the needs for most peaple


 

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2012, 02:06:04 PM »
You guys seen the new stone glacier packs?  If they'd been announced awhile back and had some proven miles on them I would be interested to see how they stack up.  My T1 is a good pack, but I like the pack layout a bit better on the Stone Glacier...
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2012, 05:11:20 PM »
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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #206 on: September 01, 2012, 09:17:17 PM »
I'm going to have the stoneglacier terminus before my October General Season rifle hunt! :tup:

I will let you guys know how it stacks up against My Dana Designs Terraframe :dunno:  You have to try it to find out right?

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #207 on: September 04, 2012, 09:43:33 AM »
its gona be a zero frills pack.....carbon fiber frame,water proof simple 3 pocket bag,meat flap,fast remove bow/rifle holder..prolly wont fit the needs for most peaple

Actualy that sounds like it would fit the needs of alot of hunters, I agree with Colockum if you have a design, get it patented cuz im sure you could market a pack like that.

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Re: Backcountry Packs
« Reply #208 on: September 04, 2012, 04:27:12 PM »
Also... to quote you:

A note on packs. Everyone will have extremely biased opinions on either what they own (good/bad) or who they choose to believe (mostly on the internet). When people start talking about a "backcountry pack" most of us will tend to focus on the weight hauling ability of the pack and the comfort that coincides with hauling heavy weight. The fact of the matter is, all hunts and loads are not created equal. A 3 day mule deer hunt is not the same as a 14 day sheep hunt.

Note the fact that I haven't posted pictures or names of my packs (boasting about their "capabilities").

Not boasting...you said you'd rather take two trips, I was pointing out that isn't always a viable option.

I'm going to have the stoneglacier terminus before my October General Season rifle hunt! :tup:

I will let you guys know how it stacks up against My Dana Designs Terraframe :dunno:  You have to try it to find out right?

I am very curious to know if you like it. I'm using a Gen II Icon right now but if those SG packs perform I'm getting one. Good luck in MT!

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« Reply #209 on: September 05, 2012, 05:07:21 PM »
Also... to quote you:

A note on packs. Everyone will have extremely biased opinions on either what they own (good/bad) or who they choose to believe (mostly on the internet). When people start talking about a "backcountry pack" most of us will tend to focus on the weight hauling ability of the pack and the comfort that coincides with hauling heavy weight. The fact of the matter is, all hunts and loads are not created equal. A 3 day mule deer hunt is not the same as a 14 day sheep hunt.

Note the fact that I haven't posted pictures or names of my packs (boasting about their "capabilities").

Not boasting...you said you'd rather take two trips, I was pointing out that isn't always a viable option.

I'm going to have the stoneglacier terminus before my October General Season rifle hunt! :tup:

I will let you guys know how it stacks up against My Dana Designs Terraframe :dunno:  You have to try it to find out right?

I am very curious to know if you like it. I'm using a Gen II Icon right now but if those SG packs perform I'm getting one. Good luck in MT!

How does the new Icon do with 100 pounds? 5k cu in model? I heard it comes in at 6.4 lbs. Any truth to that?


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