What does "Traditional" mean to you ?

[BK]

"People just 500 years ago would think the equipment Howard Hill and Fred Bear used was modern."
Unless you were from Persia, Turkey, any where in central Asia, then you'd compare their stuff to your horn sinew composites for about 2 seconds and conclude that they had a long ways to go.

[npaull]

In regards to archery, I think it's pretty simple: longbow, recurve, flatbow, selfbow. No sights, no release.

I'll never understand people who go into archery, and then try their hardest to make their bows the most high-tech things this side of assault rifles. By the time you add all that techno crap, why not just buy a gun and be done with it? I'd much, much rather hunt with a simple gun than with a complicated compound bow. But I'd rather hunt with my longbow than anything else...

[jaymark6655]

In regards to archery, I think it's pretty simple: longbow, recurve, flatbow, selfbow. No sights, no release.

I'll never understand people who go into archery, and then try their hardest to make their bows the most high-tech things this side of assault rifles. By the time you add all that techno crap, why not just buy a gun and be done with it? I'd much, much rather hunt with a simple gun than with a complicated compound bow. But I'd rather hunt with my longbow than anything else...

What about a recurve with titanium limbs and an aluminum riser?  Thinking of making one.

[npaull]

More power to anyone who makes their own gear. For me I gotta have a wooden bow just because that's what I like.

I think the fundamental thing that makes archery "traditional" would be instinctive shooting, more than what the bow's made of.

[Snapshot]

In regards to archery, I think it's pretty simple: longbow, recurve, flatbow, selfbow. No sights, no release.

I'll never understand people who go into archery, and then try their hardest to make their bows the most high-tech things this side of assault rifles. By the time you add all that techno crap, why not just buy a gun and be done with it? I'd much, much rather hunt with a simple gun than with a complicated compound bow. But I'd rather hunt with my longbow than anything else...

What about a recurve with titanium limbs and an aluminum riser?  Thinking of making one.

I have held an all aluminum recurve in my hand. I though it was ugly, it was cold to the touch and the owner said it wasn't known to be a very good shooter...but it was a conversation piece to say the least.

[TheHunt]

To answer the initial question that was posted:

To me it means no electronic's for archery and no smokeless powder or scopes for muzzle loaders.

[npaull]

Yeah I kinda like the simplicity of that definition, The Hunt.

[BOWHUNTER45]

For me its recurve bows & wooden arrows and muzzleloaders being Flintlock not percussion ....I have seriously been thinking of going back to a recurve ....I really do not care if I kill many more animals So I might need to go back to old school 

[rasbo]

For me its recurve bows & wooden arrows and muzzleloaders being Flintlock not percussion ....I have seriously been thinking of going back to a recurve ....I really do not care if I kill many more animals So I might need to go back to old school 

same here,but!!!I will stay with the caps on the wetside,iffin I were on the east side flintlock all the way,click...boom

[family hunter]

well when i think of traditional it is what it states by def. now with that i am not trying to start a bashing thread but the Indians say they hunt and net for traditional purposes rite. now why are they doing thing UN traditionally motors,selling to japan killing for trophy and not meat, not living on the land etc. so why the hell does this make a damn difference i dot know . if the tribes can modernize why the hell cant we , i mean we have all the limits they do not it should all be the same .

[PlateauNDN]

well when i think of traditional it is what it states by def. now with that i am not trying to start a bashing thread but the Indians say they hunt and net for traditional purposes rite. now why are they doing thing UN traditionally motors,selling to japan killing for trophy and not meat, not living on the land etc. so why the hell does this make a damn difference i dot know . if the tribes can modernize why the hell cant we , i mean we have all the limits they do not it should all be the same .

 

[npaull]

well when i think of traditional it is what it states by def. now with that i am not trying to start a bashing thread but the Indians say they hunt and net for traditional purposes rite. now why are they doing thing UN traditionally motors,selling to japan killing for trophy and not meat, not living on the land etc.

They use the word "traditional" to sell themselves and engage in activities that are totally UNtraditional as you point out. It's total *censored* and needs to stop (or at least, we should all call a spade a spade). Anyone who thinks hunting whales with a rifle is a "traditional" activity has their head up their ass. Want to do it with a harpoon from a canoe I'm all for it.

But anyway, we digress. Go wooden bows and smokey muskets.

[PlateauNDN]

well when i think of traditional it is what it states by def. now with that i am not trying to start a bashing thread but the Indians say they hunt and net for traditional purposes rite. now why are they doing thing UN traditionally motors,selling to japan killing for trophy and not meat, not living on the land etc.

They use the word "traditional" to sell themselves and engage in activities that are totally UNtraditional as you point out. got any info. to back up such a claim?It's total *censored* and needs to stop (or at least, we should all call a spade a spade). Anyone who thinks hunting whales with a rifle is a "traditional" activity has their head up their ass. Want to do it with a harpoon from a canoe I'm all for it.  You are seriously misinformed.  The Makah, who you're refering to, have not hunted a whale for quite a while because of a few members that didn't wait for the completed permit process to harvest a whale.  Last I heard they have another permit submitted for another whale but they haven't received the authorization yet.  Also, they were ordered to use a .50 cal after the initial strike from the harpoon to humanely and quickly end the suffering of the whale so if you have a problem with that take it up with the Fed Judge and the tree huggers that cried for it.

But anyway, we digress. Go wooden bows and smokey muskets.

based off of the OP's post, I'd say the dictionary definition is what traditional means to a lot of folks on here, long bow or muzzle, but to others such as myself who was never taught but is learning to use a bow traditional 5-10 years ago for me would've been a rifle.  None of my uncles, even my father and even my grandfathers never used a bow to hunt so yes, traditional to them was using a rifle.  I've taken it upon myself to learn archery and that's by personal choice.

I commend those that use traditional equipment such as longbows, because in my eyes that is traditional, even more traditional than muzzies, which in my eyes, is not traditional, more of an advancement outside of traditional equipment.  Even though the muzzle is basic compared to modern day firearms it is still a firearm and less traditional than a longbow.

[pianoman9701]

well when i think of traditional it is what it states by def. now with that i am not trying to start a bashing thread but the Indians say they hunt and net for traditional purposes rite. now why are they doing thing UN traditionally motors,selling to japan killing for trophy and not meat, not living on the land etc.

They use the word "traditional" to sell themselves and engage in activities that are totally UNtraditional as you point out. got any info. to back up such a claim?It's total *censored* and needs to stop (or at least, we should all call a spade a spade). Anyone who thinks hunting whales with a rifle is a "traditional" activity has their head up their ass. Want to do it with a harpoon from a canoe I'm all for it.  You are seriously misinformed.  The Makah, who you're refering to, have not hunted a whale for quite a while because of a few members that didn't wait for the completed permit process to harvest a whale.  Last I heard they have another permit submitted for another whale but they haven't received the authorization yet.  Also, they were ordered to use a .50 cal after the initial strike from the harpoon to humanely and quickly end the suffering of the whale so if you have a problem with that take it up with the Fed Judge and the tree huggers that cried for it.

But anyway, we digress. Go wooden bows and smokey muskets.

based off of the OP's post, I'd say the dictionary definition is what traditional means to a lot of folks on here, long bow or muzzle, but to others such as myself who was never taught but is learning to use a bow traditional 5-10 years ago for me would've been a rifle.  None of my uncles, even my father and even my grandfathers never used a bow to hunt so yes, traditional to them was using a rifle.  I've taken it upon myself to learn archery and that's by personal choice.

I commend those that use traditional equipment such as longbows, because in my eyes that is traditional, even more traditional than muzzies, which in my eyes, is not traditional, more of an advancement outside of traditional equipment.  Even though the muzzle is basic compared to modern day firearms it is still a firearm and less traditional than a longbow.

When Pacific Natives starting using harpoons to kill whales way back whenever, it was far from traditional. It was new. Having that resource and hunting it is traditional. I have no problem with Natives hunting whales with whatever tool they choose. A .50 cal is probably the most humane kill and I'm all about humane. There's no shortage of whales and hunting them seems to be an important social ritual. It doesn't bother me one bit. I'd love to be included, as a matter of fact. Plateau, got any connections on the coast?

[PlateauNDN]

I've got a few but they're not the hunting type.  Maybe check with Coastal he's from that part of the State, just south of the Makah Nation.  When they get their next permit I'm gonna try and take the family up there to try and observe.