Open Carry

[Atroxus]

its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Want to open carry? so there you are in line at 7-11, open carry. a robber walks in, sees you and you are dead, or people in line behind you, see your gun, take your gun and again your dead. if they make you nervous and you so much as touch your gun, Aggrevated assault, your in jail..

You want to survive a gun fight? surprise goes along way towards that end.

Actually we are just unwilling to take opinion as fact without evidence to back it. I have never been able to find anything that supports  your claims. If you have, then post it up.

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[FALFire]

its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Want to open carry? so there you are in line at 7-11, open carry. a robber walks in, sees you and you are dead, or people in line behind you, see your gun, take your gun and again your dead. if they make you nervous and you so much as touch your gun, Aggrevated assault, your in jail..

You want to survive a gun fight? surprise goes along way towards that end.

  That is some funny sheet right there!

[rtspring]

its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Want to open carry? so there you are in line at 7-11, open carry. a robber walks in, sees you and you are dead, or people in line behind you, see your gun, take your gun and again your dead. if they make you nervous and you so much as touch your gun, Aggrevated assault, your in jail..

You want to survive a gun fight? surprise goes along way towards that end.

OR if you look at it from a diffrent angle, it would deter the criminal from acting out a crime because he sees a man with a gun on his hip. I would hope most people that carry a gun are experienced enough not to let some thug take thier gun away.  Its a personal choice, I see no problem with open carry or concealed. To each is his own....

[toothfangclaw]

Ohhh here's a good one.. at what point is it not open carry? what if I put on a coat? Or what do you do when driving around? How do you know where you can take one or not? I know federal/state buildings, but what about civilian owned stores? Is it all good unless otherwise posted?

[goosegetter79]

its kinda funny, people saying, everytime this is brought up people keep saying the same thing, lol. maybe you are just not willing to listen to anything but your own opinion.  why dont you look up statistics with regards to police officers killed by firearms. a good percentage are killed with their own gun.

Want to open carry? so there you are in line at 7-11, open carry. a robber walks in, sees you and you are dead, or people in line behind you, see your gun, take your gun and again your dead. if they make you nervous and you so much as touch your gun, Aggrevated assault, your in jail..

You want to survive a gun fight? surprise goes along way towards that end.

OR if you look at it from a diffrent angle, it would deter the criminal from acting out a crime because he sees a man with a gun on his hip. I would hope most people that carry a gun are experienced enough not to let some thug take thier gun away.  Its a personal choice, I see no problem with open carry or concealed. To each is his own....

 

[goosegetter79]

Check out www.opencarry.org. Lots of good info.

[Atroxus]

Here is a link to an interesting thread that addresses that "you'll be targeted by criminals" myth, along with a quote from the initial post there.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?95995-Spoke-with-a-Convicted-Fellon-Saturday-about-OC

I ran into a kid at the carwash this past Saturday, I remember him and his brother from church when they were ankle-biters. Sadly both this guy and his brother ended up doing time in the state pokey (His brother is actually back in) while he has turned his life around. He recognized me and came up to start chatting- saw my sidearm and asked what I was carrying these days. Spent a few minutes talking about my firearm and he says, "you know, guys like my brother fear people like you."

I said, "armed people?"

He said, "no, armed people who don't bother covering it up."

I asked, "Why not just regular armed people?"

He said, "can't tell who is strapped and who isn't. Someone carrying concealed looks just like everyone else. See, when guys like him case a joint, they make sure that everything is in place. As soon as they see someone with a piece hangin' off their belt it messes with their rhythm. That throws them off and makes them shaky."

Then he said something that has stuck with me since, "my brother said it took him almost a week to get the picture of a guy with a gun out of his mind before he got the nerve up to go rob another store. It really freaked him out because it reminded him that there were people out there with guns that could shoot back."

I said (in my most sarcastic voice), "you can't tell me a hardened criminal is actually scared of a private citizen with a handgun."

His answer? "Thugs ain't no heroes... too lazy and it takes a lot of energy to get nerve up to go somewhere and do it. If you mess with that flow they gotta wait until they get jacked up enough to do it again. Could take a few minutes or a few days, but they won't go back to where they know somebody's packin'"

Thought provoking conversation. I just hope this kid has learned his lesson and stays out of trouble.

[GEARHEAD]

look i dont need to go to sources with my "same" view for information to sway me or educate me, frankly its just silly. im just saying it makes no sense to place a target on your forehead for badguys and prosecutors to shoot at.

[FC]

look i dont need to go to sources with my "same" view for information to sway me or educate me, frankly its just silly. im just saying it makes no sense to place a target on your forehead for badguys and prosecutors to shoot at.

After you pretty much told us were idiots for not sharing what turned out to be your opinion, I shared the actual facts of the matter from as good a source as we are likely to get and now it is just a source that shares my "view"?

I'm not trying to be a dick here but I have seen this argument countless times and the same tired old BS always comes up and there is never any proof of it, I thought maybe you would like to know some of the facts about it, I guess I was wrong!

[GEARHEAD]

not calling anyone an idiot, i agree to each his/her own.......now a little homework assignment for you. every evening, after dinner, go to the seven eleven in skyway, and by some icecream for desert while in open carry mode. odds are frankly...no harm will come to you, and i do mean that, but... do that for a couple weeks and then tell me you felt comfortable/safe waiting in line....lol... jus saying.

[runamuk]

Ohhh here's a good one.. at what point is it not open carry? what if I put on a coat? Or what do you do when driving around? How do you know where you can take one or not? I know federal/state buildings, but what about civilian owned stores? Is it all good unless otherwise posted?

well you can carry into the courthouse here so you can license your car and stuff but you cant go into the courtrooms, you have to go get a key and put it in a lockbox and now I know which defense attorney CC's lol cuz I saw him lock up his piece.....and he dont look the part .... bet he would be pegged liberal real quick.

as for carrying I dont carry a gun they are scary

[FALFire]

now a little homework assignment for you. every evening, after dinner, go to the seven eleven in skyway, and by some icecream for desert while in open carry mode. odds are frankly...no harm will come to you, and i do mean that, but... do that for a couple weeks and then tell me you felt comfortable/safe waiting in line....lol... jus saying.

Been there, Done that! Nearly every evening, never felt threatened either. Also, used to go into Skyway Bowl every evening and sometimes 3 or 4 times a night and every time I carried open and never had a threat or any harm come to me, got a few hard looks though from the gangsters but they never tried anything. 

[Greg30-06]

Carrying concealed doesn’t necessarily mean you won’t be harassed by police either. I have been pulled ohver before with 2 guns on me, I told the cop right away and in a polite manner so I wouldn’t alarm him (obviously I told him I had a permit as well). I still got taken out of the car, detained, my guns taken by the cops (to check if they were stolen I think), and patted down by his partner. I was let go obviously and they gave me my guns back but still a pain in the butt. Just sayin

  They had absolutely no right to do that.  If they want to see if its stollen they can take the serial number off the butt of the gun and call it in.  If it was just a traffic stop they can't pull ypuout of the car take your guns and pat you down like a criminal.  Remember cops will say you have to just to make them  feel safer but they can't make you.  Ask them to show you the rcw etc that says so. 

[JimmyHoffa]

I usually just conceal now.  Carrying open draws so much attention.  And with some of the guns (MP5, M4var, AOWs) they had to be unloaded anyways getting back in the vehicle. When you are throwing in a mag and closing a slide in the parking lot...apparently it is 'warranting alarm'.  

[jaymark6655]

Nice day like today its going to be open carry at some point whether I like it or not, I am too fat (at least for CC with a t-shirt).  I think a gun on the belt is less scary to people than one that looks like its tucked in your pants and kind of hidden.  As for people taking your gun, depending on the person's holster it isn't likely to happen unless they have already drawn it.  I use a blackhawk CQC with it canted forward, you would have to spoon me first to get that thing out.  Sure there is a youtube video about it somewhere, if not I guess I should make one.

As for being a target, someone willing to shoot an armed person is probably just as willing shoot an unarmed person too.  Cops carry will on duty all the time and just their presence seems to deter tons of bad guys.  I think most bad guys would find an armed citizen more frieghtening than a cop, a cop will just try to arrest them or chase them if they run.  They probably figure an armed citizen would just shoot them.

Big plus: No need for that pesky CPL (and its paper trail) when open carry.  I have so I dont have to disarm when I get in a car, but just pointing it out.