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[huntnphool]

DP is NOT pay to play. Very little of the funding goes to the places/agencies where its use is required. This is a new tax on a small segment of our population (mostly sportsmen and women), with most of the revenues paying for services that all of our citizens use through the general fund. I'm against being singled out for a special tax for specific activities when 100% of that tax is not going directly to funding those activities.

I buy one because I'd be even more pissed if I had to pay a $99 fine.

+1

[Gringo31]

There is a fair amount of DNR ground that is land locked.  Some of it is orchards, row crops etc.  Let's say I had the DNR lease and was farming apples on DNR ground.  If during the off season, would I have to buy a discover pass to hunt the fringe areas where I didn't have a tree?  Would this go the the "management" of such property?  Without my pass, would the "management" be any different?

[washelkhunter]

The.main problem is that WDFW is now a subagency of the dept of parks and recreation. They figure hunters are a captive and dependable source of revenue. The director and commissioners should nave gone to bat for us and got us an exemption. As fas i know they did nothing. Ill never buy a DP.

[Special T]

I think i should point out some key points.

The DP was DESIGNED to take $$$ from one user group to give to another... People who use parks are not willing to pay for their use. 10 years ago there was a parking fee and attendance dropped.  The hook and bullet crowd are willing to pay for their activities most parks users are not.

Pay to play is the most fair way to divide the bill. The state moves funds around as it sees fit and considers it "Their $" not yours... Stolen Nova funds, WDFW Lic plate funds and others.

I think a simplified pass is good. I like the idea of a DP but funds should be divided equally between at least the WDFW DNR and Parks for the purpose of Recreation, or even just WDFW and parks...

The game of divide and pit one group against each other is not new and will continue as long as we let them.

[hunting4sanity]

DP is NOT pay to play. Very little of the funding goes to the places/agencies where its use is required. This is a new tax on a small segment of our population (mostly sportsmen and women), with most of the revenues paying for services that all of our citizens use through the general fund. I'm against being singled out for a special tax for specific activities when 100% of that tax is not going directly to funding those activities.

I buy one because I'd be even more pissed if I had to pay a $99 fine.

What he said.

[mtman]

Never going to buy one. I can see paying for one to camp at a camp site. but then you shouldent have to pay any other fees. all these passes got me confused what Im paying for.

[washelkhunter]

You dont need a DP to camp at a State Park. Your camping fee covers it there. If your on state or dnr land tho you need the DP.

[hoytem]

Thanks to backwoods boy I'm now equipped to publicly show how i feel about the discover pass. Strongly against.

[chester]

Against, will not buy one.

[Elkaholic daWg]

I think i should point out some key points.

The DP was DESIGNED to take $$$ from one user group to give to another... People who use parks are not willing to pay for their use. 10 years ago there was a parking fee and attendance dropped.  The hook and bullet crowd are willing to pay for their activities most parks users are not.

Pay to play is the most fair way to divide the bill. The state moves funds around as it sees fit and considers it "Their $" not yours... Stolen Nova funds, WDFW Lic plate funds and others.

I think a simplified pass is good. I like the idea of a DP but funds should be divided equally between at least the WDFW DNR and Parks for the purpose of Recreation, or even just WDFW and parks...

The game of divide and pit one group against each other is not new and will continue as long as we let them.

 if you remember...in 2008 the  Majority party in our state was selling "Hope and Change" right? the same party LOADED with these...
(from a CBU alert)
"The Forest Service and BLM are being run by environmental groups like Defenders of Wildlife, the National Wildlife Federation, World Wildlife Fund, Nature Conservancy and others to numerous to count. These groups have lots of money which has bought our land management agencies and corrupted the people in charge."

 But how much is the state spending, or going to spend on the majority parties pet bill on gay marriage, all the while IGNORING the budget mess they had created?

[Special T]

I'm currently reading a book that documents and explains the Demise of the once mighty US Forest Service. When i Finish it i will talk more about it. It all started in the 60's and you guessed it Kalifornia...

[norsepeak]

will not buy!!!  I feel like it's illegal anyway.  It's called "double dipping" when you charge someone for something that they are already paying for.  Our tax dollars pay for DNR lands and now they want me to pay again, I don't think so...

[Mudman]

Never had one, never will. Rather pay fine and stand up for my beliefs. Check mitigation on ticket and tell it to the judge I will.

[billythekidrock]

I am against it but I bought it to stay legal.

I would probably be ok with it if they ticketed those that don't have it. Contrary to all of the reported tickets, I have yet to hear about (or see) anyone on state land in the Winston get tickets. I still see a ton of vehicles in the Capitol State Forest without the pass as well.

Yes, I understand that enforcement is stretched thin, but damn! Enforce the law.

[Ghost Hunter]

I am against it.  and if I had one, I absolutely wouldn't display it while driving.  Can't stand hanging anything on the mirror, or laying on the dash making distracting reflections in the windshield.  who's assinine idea was that?