Need Some Help on New Bowsite

[mlgunkel]

It's been a while since I posted.  I've moved to Alaska and made a career change to teaching.  I am looking for some feedback for my students. 

I am a high school teacher for a remote school in Alaska and as a class project we developed a truly distance compensating bowsite. We actually made a prototype, tested it, won best of show at the local science fair, and filed a provisional patent on it.

This is a laser site that is always on no matter how far you are away from the target. There are no adjustments required. You don't even have to know how far you are away from the target - just put the dot where you want to hit & shoot. I'm not kidding - it really works.

We detailed how it works on a simple website. www.spotonbowsite.com There also is a video showing the site in action. Take a look and let us know what you think.

I KNOW IT"S NOT LEGAL FOR HUNTING IN WASHINGTON - I just know a lot of you guys know your stuff and am looking for opinions.

Thanks

[wraithen]

If it works as advertised its pretty cool. You'll get 2 responses. They guys that dig it, and the guys that believe it i cheating to not need to spend 200 arrows learning your weapon first.

[mlgunkel]

It has been a fun project.  The three students working on it are actually on the Alaska State Archery team and traveled back to Kentucky for the national tournament.  They, of course, don't use sites on their bows for the competition but it is a project that they all got into.

[DoubleJ]

Do you have to have that big bar on the bow the whole time or has that been developed out?

[mlgunkel]

The big bar is what we used for the prototype and we made it long so we could test many different configurations.  We've not developed this beyond this prototype at all.  The bar would not be that long or big in a developed site.  The school year has ended so we are not doing anything with it now.

[stuckalot]

That is just cool!  What a great learning experience for those students, and yourself I'm sure! 

[Special T]

Very Cool Project! THAT kind of learning is the kind that really sticks with kids...

[NWWABOWHNTR]

I would suggest that if that is the best accuracy you can get to delete the video.  I can do that without sights or a range finder to 50 yards with my recurve... not bragging but I do it all the time.  If you want my credentials PM me, I am just saying it sure is not an accurate system.

[buckfvr]

Intersting for sure, but I just dont see where it would fit in any archery application unless it somehow transformed to a micro size and became legal to hunt and or compete with. 

[Special T]

I think it would need some refinement to make a saleable product. I think it is a great way to APPLY what they are learning to a real world project...
NWWABowhunter There are lots of gadgets what we can do buy that help us shoot better...   Some of us still have training wheels because we are not as dedicated as stick shooters... BTW I have a recurve that should be on the way soon... 

I don't think the product is ment to help competive shooters but a dead deer wont know the difference... Its kinda like the which caliber is better arguments you hear on the Bullet topics. 

And yes he can shoot the Flea off a Dogs But at 50 yards with a stick bow..
 

[NWWABOWHNTR]

I can see it for someone who can't figure out how to sight in there bow... but my concern is that the statement, NO need to know your bow ... in 30 minutes you are ready.    That is NOT what we want in bowhunting.   
I do like the idea that school kids got to work on such an interesting project, and love the mathematical portions of the website.  WHat a great experience for the kids, but this product rates right up there with the laser broadhead that is made in Shelton... 

[mlgunkel]

Not sure on what application it would be good for but it is pretty cool just walking and stopping at random distances and being able to shoot pretty accurately without even having to consider your distance to target.  I'm not a great shot - but I've killed about 15 mule deer.  One thing that the laser shows is torque from gripping the bow.  It's amazing how far you can make that laser move just by changes in form.  Sorry for the choppy video - it was literally made right after we set it up by one of the students with a little flip video.  I was still amazed and shocked it was actually working as predicted.  One of the coolest things about the project was how accurately we were able to predict the arrow trajectory by shooting groups and deriving a quadratic equation.  We actually tested it by plugging in different ranges (x values) and compared the computed drops to actual.  It was real close.  Maybe I'll have a class next year make an online ballistic calculator based on the same concept. 

Thanks for your feedback - the kids appreciate it

[NWWABOWHNTR]

Very cool, an online calculator.  There are some programs out there you can model it after,  archery programs like "Arcners Mark", it take a few measurements of your bow,  you shoot in your long distance (say 60 yards) and a short distance (20), add that to the program and it gives you your sight marks for those target archers with a movable sight for any yardage.