second deer

[hornhunter1987]

got drawn for the modern antlerless second deer tag in gmu 340. this was my first time putting in for permits so i am pretty pumped to have drawn SOMETHING  Anyone been there? i google earthed it and it seems like pretty nice country but i need to get over there and see it in person.

[bobcat]

Not many deer in that unit anymore. I'm not sure why they have 2nd tags for that unit. In fact they ought to shut it down completly for a couple years. Only problem with that is the Yakamas would still hunt it. Sorry for being negative but I just don't get why the WDFW wants to take does out of a unit that is already seriously hurting.

[buglebuster]

 

[buglebuster]

Just checked the regs and I think your mistaken, there is no second deer tag in that area.

[hornhunter1987]

ooops the hunt choice number was 1340 so for some reason i had 340 on the brain. its gmu 382. east klickitat

[bobcat]

That's much better. Plenty of deer down there, but 99% private land.

[carpsniperg2]

  That is much better. 382 is my home unit. 80% private 20% public. Of that 20% about 10% is public ground that you cannot get to and hunt. Of the 10% left about 5% of it holds deer. There is some spots to be able to hunt. The cats have been whacking a lot of deer in the area.

I guide and offer hunts for your tag If you are interted shoot me a pm or check out my website

[shoot-em-dead]

We checked out that area last year during late muzzy- not much open for public and like stated- half the public property is landlocked. I don't plan on returning. You'll spend more time driving than hunting.

As for your hunt I do have a small tip that might help some. sending a PM. Also, I don't know him but carp seems to be a good guy from the site and I would check out his prices.

[carpsniperg2]

Thanks

I do have a few members on here that know me and have hunted and done trips with me as well

[Bigshooter]

I'll second carp being a good guy.  I have messaged with him about hunts off and on for about a year now and he's has never tried to BS me.  And i might be doing a hunt with him this year.

[Houndhunter]

Its funny, a doe tag costs more than a buck tag in this state. Almost 70$ for a second deer, get real

[hornhunter1987]

will knocking on doors get me very far? i work for a shellfish company and was thinking i would make up a big goodie box of geoduck, oysters, clams, and mussels to see if they would want to trade for a deer. carp sniper i would love to have u guide me but the women would s**t if i spent anymore money this year. and the $70 for the second tag......... the memories are priceless 

[BAR C3]

Everyone who drew this tag should eat it and not pay the $70! 
You can go to Montana and buy up to 5 $50 Mule deer doe tags over the counter as a non resident.
If you haven't figured out that this state is trying to up the prices on every tag and license to generate money for the rest of the broke systems and to push more people out of hunting, you have your head in the sand! 
This state lost my money after this year for miracle tags! 
Out of 30 guys at work, I know 2 who drew elk tags. 10 of them drew doe tags and are not buying them!

[cem3434]

Not many deer in that unit anymore. I'm not sure why they have 2nd tags for that unit. In fact they ought to shut it down completly for a couple years. Only problem with that is the Yakamas would still hunt it. Sorry for being negative but I just don't get why the WDFW wants to take does out of a unit that is already seriously hurting.

Couldnt agree more.  I have killed quite a few deer in there, but the hunting has been horrible for about the last 4 years or so.  Its a same that the State is giving out tags in this unit because it really needs a couple of years to rebound.  As far as I am concerned, close it down and shut the gates from October 1st to May 1st for a couple years. 

[steen]

I can't wait to hunt my 2nd deer (whitetail doe) I have never hunted a whitetail.  I may be able to say this year I shot my first whitetail and my first whitetail buck!!  Saving for the taxidermy bill.  The doe will be a relaxing hunt at a buddies cabin for $70.00 ain't bad, the buck bit more planning and cost.  No guarantee but I'm optamistic (sp?)  One more deer in the freezer ain't bad either.  It's what's for dinner venison or venison!!

[cem3434]

Everyone who drew this tag should eat it and not pay the $70! 
You can go to Montana and buy up to 5 $50 Mule deer doe tags over the counter as a non resident.
If you haven't figured out that this state is trying to up the prices on every tag and license to generate money for the rest of the broke systems and to push more people out of hunting, you have your head in the sand! 
This state lost my money after this year for miracle tags! 
Out of 30 guys at work, I know 2 who drew elk tags. 10 of them drew doe tags and are not buying them!

I agree with your opinion, but the $500 or more in gas makes it a little hard for some guys to justify going to Montana. My party drew 2nd deer tags in Roosevelt where we hunt one of my co-workers family property, so I will buy my tag since I am going there anyways.  Besides, I dont think you can beat the taste of a nice fat doe that has been living on the wheat fields.

[CHUCK S]

Roger that! I was also drawn for a 2nd tag in Roosevelt.  What's nice about the area (if you're on private land) is the choice of deer.  1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6, 7, or which ever one in the herd is bigger 

[hornhunter1987]

  why would u put in for a second deer if u didnt want to pay the $70. 70 pounds of tasty venison is worth $70 to me! plus it makes  holding out for a mature buck way easier if a big fat doe is already cut and wrapped in the freezer

[Blacktail Sniper]

why would u put in for a second deer if u didnt want to pay the $70. 70 pounds of tasty venison is worth $70 to me! plus it makes  holding out for a mature buck way easier if a big fat doe is already cut and wrapped in the freezer

Good point.

[BAR C3]

why would u put in for a second deer if u didn't want to pay the $70. 70 pounds of tasty venison is worth $70 to me! plus it makes  holding out for a mature buck way easier if a big fat doe is already cut and wrapped in the freezer

The guys I know that drew it did not know about the new $70 price tag. They are pist! None of them are paying the $70.
cem3434, it would cost me that much because it's less than 100 mile for me. I'm assuming your on the Westside. I guess my point is that a guy next year could go over there and put 5 does in the back of your truck and with the exception of the gas, cheaper than what I paid for all my stuff in this screwed up state!

[67 Halfcab]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

[washelkhunter]

Last year that 2nd deer tag was $26. Really teed me off when they started that one.

[C-Money]

I drew this tag as well. I put in for it for a chance to whack a whitetail doe. We are not excited about the whitetails moving in on the place. So, If I see one, that's what my second tag will be used on. I am still dreaming of a wide, even 4pt for my first tag!

Carp, are you seeing the whitetails as well?

Hornhunter, I would recommend Carpsniper if you have limited options for land access. He will provide a fun hunt that you will remember for a long time.

[steen]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

I totally agree with you!!!

[carpsniperg2]

I drew this tag as well. I put in for it for a chance to whack a whitetail doe. We are not excited about the whitetails moving in on the place. So, If I see one, that's what my second tag will be used on. I am still dreaming of a wide, even 4pt for my first tag!

Carp, are you seeing the whitetails as well?

Hornhunter, I would recommend Carpsniper if you have limited options for land access. He will provide a fun hunt that you will remember for a long time.

Thanks

Yes I have been seeing around 4-8 does a year and a few bucks crossed up with whitetails. We have killed one with whitetail in it for the last 4 years. About 7 years ago my gma shot a toad that was the first cross we had killed. My dad shot a dandy buck as well and even alwine was sure it was a whitetail I have a picture laying around someplace of that toad my gma shot and its tail. Its about 1' long and solid white and true whitetail rack with a couple little mule deer features in it.

[carpsniperg2]

Here we go, this was a toad of a buck for our area as well.

[h20hunter]

Uh....that is a deers butt?

[carpsniperg2]

  Thats the point! Whitetail

[C-Money]

We kinda wondered if my buck from last year had a splash of whitetail as well. Carp, any head photos of the buck?

[carpsniperg2]

They are in a photo album some place since they are a still picture. Kinda pre dates the camera phone LOL

[BAR C3]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

Can't speak for them, but personally I never saw that and I would think that would be a highlight for changes. Maybe it was, I didn't see it. Pretty significant. 
I would like to hear if there is a more expensive state to hunt in than this state??? If you add all the taxes we pay in gas, booze, chew and etc.. It truly is turning into a rich mans sport!

[cem3434]

I did see the fee increase and I still chose to put in and will buy my tag. I think its very irresponsible of you and/or your friends to not have taken the time to read and understand the regulations for the tags that you were applying for. You all should have read the regulations because the tag fee increases across all of the categories were clearly stated in several places.

We have beat the topic to death about prices, but they aren't going to go down anytime soon (probably never) and I am sick of guys complaining about the prices over and over.  Look at it this way, you didn't pay attention to detail and now you are pissed off about the prices, but you and all of your buddies screwed other people out of tags that were willing to pay the $68 fee. If you don't like the prices, either write a letter to the State addressing your concerns or stop buying a license.

Hunting maybe becoming a rich man's sport, but if you enjoy hunting as much as I do, then you will figure out someway to pay for it.  Hunting is a part of my lifestyle, so I will keep doing it as long as I can afford it.  With that being said, I can think of a lot of my other "hobbies" that I would give up just to fund my hunting expenses so I envision hunting every year as long as I am able bodied.

[cem3434]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

Can't speak for them, but personally I never saw that and I would think that would be a highlight for changes. Maybe it was, I didn't see it. Pretty significant. 
I would like to hear if there is a more expensive state to hunt in than this state??? If you add all the taxes we pay in gas, booze, chew and etc.. It truly is turning into a rich mans sport!

Oh yeah if you cut out the booze and chew for a week, you could probably afford the tag too!

[seth30]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

Can't speak for them, but personally I never saw that and I would think that would be a highlight for changes. Maybe it was, I didn't see it. Pretty significant. 
I would like to hear if there is a more expensive state to hunt in than this state??? If you add all the taxes we pay in gas, booze, chew and etc.. It truly is turning into a rich mans sport!

When i was stationed in CALI they banned lead ammo in all the areas around Lemoore (central Cali).  a box of ammo could not be found under 60 bucks and the gas prices were near 5 buck a gallon.  That was the most expensive I have seen...

[RockChuck]

I would have paid the 70 but I did not get drawn!!

[67 Halfcab]

So are they pissed at themselves for not reading the regs and understanding what they were applying for?

Can't speak for them, but personally I never saw that and I would think that would be a highlight for changes. Maybe it was, I didn't see it. Pretty significant. 
I would like to hear if there is a more expensive state to hunt in than this state??? If you add all the taxes we pay in gas, booze, chew and etc.. It truly is turning into a rich mans sport!

Cut directly from the 2012 Big Game Regs, page 27 printed in black, white, and red:

Special Hunt Application Required (Category): Second Deer
Who May Apply: Anyone may apply.
Hunt Choices Allowed: Up to 4 hunt choices may be selected for this category. Use the 4-digit "Hunt Choice" number
below to submit your application.
Notes: You must purchase a second deer tag to participate in this hunt and only the second tag can be used in the second
deer permit hunt. The second tag must be the same weapon choice as your first tag. You may hunt only with the hunting
method in compliance with your tag. The price of a second tag has increased significantly, please see page 14.

It is important to thoroughly read the regulations (general information pages included) each season, not just thumb through to the special permit hunt species/category/hunt names. Changes occur every year.