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New to elk
« on: June 16, 2012, 12:35:59 PM »
Being from Wisconsin i have never hunted elk before. I've deer hunted all my life and consider myself to be a fairly good hunter/outdoorsman. I would like to ask for a few pointers on hunting NE Wa, but it seems nobody is willing to give any solid info other than "go look for yourself." I know how to walk around the woods and scout, and i think i've found a spot that will hold some elk for the fall. I'm not looking to shoot a huge elk. I will shoot anything other than a calf. Just having the opportunity to hunt elk is a dream come true for me.

What i want to know is some general elk hunting tactics/calling? I'm going to go early season archery hunting and i am wondering how well the animals actually respond to calls, or will i be better off stalking silently?

Plz don't give me any dumb answers. I already think this forum is almost useless for learning due to the fact that most people on here don't give up their "secrets"
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 12:39:11 PM »

Plz don't give me any dumb answers. I already think this forum is almost useless for learning due to the fact that most people on here don't give up their "secrets"
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 12:44:44 PM »
People get offended that others make a post just for themselves to rehash information that has been posted tons of times. There is a search bar. There's probably TONS of advice about your intended area and tactics and everything and writeups about hunts. If you truly believe this forum is useless why let it into the address bar? Just stick to amazon.com or something similar. Books won't be smart alecs. I'd check out The Elk Hunter. There's also already topics on good hunting books if you use the search button.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 12:52:52 PM »
I wasn't trying to be a smart alec, I don't get his post. He comes on asking others for their knowledge. To learn I'm guessing, and in the next paragraph he says the site is useless for learning. That confuses me.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 12:56:57 PM »
I wasn't trying to be a smart alec, I don't get his post. He comes on asking others for their knowledge. To learn I'm guessing, and in the next paragraph he says the site is useless for learning. That confuses me.

I wasn't calling you one. I was trying to explain to the thin skinned OP why he sees people being smart alecs to posts like his. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 01:22:27 PM »
i'm really not thin skinned i do appreciate some of the sarcasm, i just wish it was surrounded by good info. I know there are guys on here that can kill some animals, i've seen the pics. i just want to know how they did it. They had to start somewhere.

my "plz no bs" line was to avoid the conversation we're having now and just talk elk hunting.

I also know how a forum works and have spent a lot of time searching for info on NE wa elk, and have read just about every thread. But most of them get info like, "they're there, you just have to find them," or "everyone knows there aren't elk in NE Wa."

I get the sealed lip mentality, (there is no way i would tell anyone where i'm hunting) i just want to know the basics of hunting elk. What has worked for you guys in the past?
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 01:29:29 PM »
Tree stand for me but I hunt the wetside.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 01:32:41 PM »
i assume on the wetside you are setting up over food sources/ travel routes to-from?

does anyone else treestand hunt the eastside?
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2012, 01:33:14 PM »
honestly- nothing for me.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 01:38:34 PM »
Very simple, there are no Elk or very few on the East side!!! Unless you have a special permit??? So your best chance is West side, yes, hunt the rain forest they have tons of elk!!!! 

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2012, 01:43:22 PM »
If you go into an elk area there are elk there. How many miles you have to put in for a successful hunt depends on a lot of factors. People are tight lipped because there's smart people out there that can hone in on a good area from something as small as a tight shot of a trail cam pic. Combat hunting is like combat fishing, only more likely to end in a more scary situation. It's why I only fish my local spots when it's a bad time to fish them. Rather catch one and be alone than watch 5 people catch when they're a few feet from me and have to deal with all that bs.

As far as actual tactics, I'm in the same boat. I have a buddy that knows how to hunt elk but he won't be around for the season. I'm on my own. Just remember, there's some really dumb people that aren't great shots that get animals all the time. Persistence seems to be key.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2012, 01:47:35 PM »
I started archery hunting for elk probably 8 years ago.  My life changed after reading a book titled, "Radical Elk Hunting" by Mike Lapinski.  The premise of the book is basically about getting in close to call shy bulls and you basically piss them off enough to bring them in on ya.  I would also suggest the Elknuts playbook.   I need to purchase it myself and they are here on the forum and have gotten nothing but rave reviews.

Elk generally cover a much larger range than deer.  Where I hunt, if not pushed the deer tend to stay in a general area and can be somewhat patterned.  ELk on the other hand will often cover alot more ground and depending on the area may even have a route that they work and may be out of an area for a few days to a week til they come back through.  Elk  will go into the nastiest, steepest, and craziest places that you would never imagine an animal so large would travel.

As far as calling, alot of it depends on how the rut is going and the area.  One thing I'll definitely suggest is practice practice practice and spend more time practicing your calls.  Learn how to change things up and not just do the same all over and over again.  Also stay in an area for a bit once you start calling.  Don't be in a rush to call and move on right away.  Think about staying in a spot for 45 minutes or so before you move.  I've made the mistake of getting up and moving on and all of a sudden the woods erupt in front of me as a bull that was sneaking in silently takes off while I begin crying.   :chuckle:

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2012, 01:49:04 PM »
Yes, food sources and travel routes and a freaking TON of scouting.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 01:49:59 PM »
Is setting up off of their highways a good idea? What's a good setup location?
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 01:54:51 PM »
Is setting up off of their highways a good idea? What's a good setup location?

For me this depends on the scouting you've done and knowing what elk are in your area.  I've done this alot in the evenings.  Hell I had a beautiful two by two standing at arms length for about five minutes a couple of years ago while I was watching several intersecting trails one evening.  He never knew I was there and the whole time I was hoping his bigger brother was following.

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 01:56:25 PM »
Very simple, there are no Elk or very few on the East side!!! Unless you have a special permit??? So your best chance is West side, yes, hunt the rain forest they have tons of elk!!!!

Except you might not be able to see that elk five yards in front of you, lol. 

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 02:00:20 PM »
is there a particular species of browse that elk prefer?
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2012, 02:16:41 PM »
Wriathen,

Our most productive spot has 6 trails all coming to what we call the "hub." Other productive areas have been where we have seen elk over and over again.

The elk where we hunt prefer clover but I'm not sure you have that on the eastside.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2012, 02:21:25 PM »
Alright, ill spill some of my secrets.   :tup:

I hunt east side early archery season every year.  I also see animals every year.  I call, a lot.  Most people don't recommend extensive calling, but I personally rely on it almost completely. 

I get up well before light so I can be into position say a half hour before sun up.  I then start calling maybe 10 minutes before shooting light. I call pretty strong while its still dark then progressively reduce the frequency as the morning goes on.  I never call call with aggressive bugles.  That usually only brings in the big old bulls that I can't shoot.  I tend to favor spike and cow bugles.  These are softer, and more inviting for smaller bulls cows and calfs.  I also do a lot of cow and calf talk.  (all of this calling I do with a mouth reed)  I have yet to have much success with a plastic call.  I try to sound like a small group of animals, or a single lost animal. 

Sometimes I will walk and do a lost calf call.  (I used this tactic last year to stalk a small group of animals that were in the area, it did the job and I harvested a cow)  Another thing I do is try to sound like an animal.  If I am attempting to sound like a young raghorn bull I will often break sticks, pull grass, and rub trees to sound like a bull walking eating and racking trees/ground.  Its all about sounding like an animal.  Elk aren't silent creatures, they are often clumsy and make a fair amount of noise.

Scout your area and try to find water sources, pinch points, areas of high activity.  wallows, food sources etc.  Focus most of your time around these areas (preferably the ones that are at least a half mile from any service road).

What else... Pay attention to the wind, always have it blowing directly in your face, or at least across you.  Never have the wind at your back. 

Other than all of this, just be dedicated, be out well before light, plan on a good 3 hour minimum morning hunt, then I usually take most of the afternoon off and sit at camp till about 4 then i hunt till last shooting light.  Sit at a particular spot for around 45 minutes, no activity, relocate.

As far as picking a unit to hunt.  Look at the harvest reports from previous years, pick those units that produce.  Harvest reports are available on the wdfw website.

Any other questions feel free to PM me, ill try to get back to ya.

Good luck!  Elk hunting is my favorite thing to do!


PS: use your nose, elk stink.  If you can smell them, they have been there recently.  I rely on my nose a lot. 
Also, elknut is a guy that produces a lot of good elk hunting tutorials.  Check out his videos, hes just your average hunter (very successful) and shares his tips on his self made dvd's.  I owe him a shout out, his stuff has helped me a good amount.

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2012, 02:26:59 PM »
thanks Recurve-Elk. never thought about the smell thing, but it does make sense.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 02:28:33 PM »
thanks Recurve-Elk. never thought about the smell thing, but it does make sense.

It is seriously a big tool of mine.  I would say if you smell em.  Sit down and do a little calling, there is a good chance you will get some activity.  (especially if it is still pretty early in the morning, or close to sun down.)

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2012, 02:59:27 PM »
Recurve-Elk brought up a huge point with the smell.  Smell is hugely important and one of the reasons I won't use one of those charcoal filter masks (plus it's too damn hot in Sept).  I do use a face mask but but just one of those thin ones to cover up my face and thin enough that I don't overheat.   I bring this up due to a scenario from about 5 years ago.  My hunting buddy and I were hunting a bowl that we had been watching the elk in.  We observed every morning the elk would travel out up this particular hill after they had been feeding all night long. 

We hiked in well before first light and we were sneaking in around the perimeter of the bowl to head up the hillside to be in position to ambush the elk at first light.  Well all of a sudden i get this huge overpowering whiff of musty elk.  My buddy who was a couple of paces in front of me was wearing one of those charcoal lined scent free face masks.  The damn thing worked really well because not only was his odor not escaping but he couldn't smell a damn thing.  Just as I reached out to grab his shoulder and try to stop him from moving any futher the forest erupted around us and the elk herd that was not supposed to be in this spot  :chuckle: suddenly started running every which way but loose.  When the commotion died down I heard one elk taking a piss not but 5 to 10 yards from where I stood.  It was pitch black and I couldn't see a thing.  I was too excited (and stupid) to be scared about being run down by an elk in the dead of night.

So long story short, smell is important.

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2012, 07:57:35 PM »
Are you financially blessed? Hiring a guide that comes with good referrals is the best bet. If they're worth their weight in salt, they'll let you pick their brain the whole week. Nothing like standing alongside a pro.

Look at a current map and find ridgelines and saddles that are far from roads. That is your honey hole.

What weapon will you be hunting with? If archery or muzzy, you could hunt a cow OTC unit, if just killing one for the experience is more important than trying to hold out for a trophy.

If you're going to hunt in September you'd better have at least one hunting partner that is in shape and a couple of good pack frames or came carts. Temps are a little hot to be leaving meat out for days.

Skip the Hoochie Mama and go with a diaphram call.

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2012, 08:26:37 PM »
Alright, ill spill some of my secrets.   :tup:

I hunt east side early archery season every year.  I also see animals every year.  I call, a lot.  Most people don't recommend extensive calling, but I personally rely on it almost completely. 

I get up well before light so I can be into position say a half hour before sun up.  I then start calling maybe 10 minutes before shooting light. I call pretty strong while its still dark then progressively reduce the frequency as the morning goes on.  I never call call with aggressive bugles.  That usually only brings in the big old bulls that I can't shoot.  I tend to favor spike and cow bugles.  These are softer, and more inviting for smaller bulls cows and calfs.  I also do a lot of cow and calf talk.  (all of this calling I do with a mouth reed)  I have yet to have much success with a plastic call.  I try to sound like a small group of animals, or a single lost animal. 

Sometimes I will walk and do a lost calf call.  (I used this tactic last year to stalk a small group of animals that were in the area, it did the job and I harvested a cow)  Another thing I do is try to sound like an animal.  If I am attempting to sound like a young raghorn bull I will often break sticks, pull grass, and rub trees to sound like a bull walking eating and racking trees/ground.  Its all about sounding like an animal.  Elk aren't silent creatures, they are often clumsy and make a fair amount of noise.

Scout your area and try to find water sources, pinch points, areas of high activity.  wallows, food sources etc.  Focus most of your time around these areas (preferably the ones that are at least a half mile from any service road).

What else... Pay attention to the wind, always have it blowing directly in your face, or at least across you.  Never have the wind at your back. 

Other than all of this, just be dedicated, be out well before light, plan on a good 3 hour minimum morning hunt, then I usually take most of the afternoon off and sit at camp till about 4 then i hunt till last shooting light.  Sit at a particular spot for around 45 minutes, no activity, relocate.

As far as picking a unit to hunt.  Look at the harvest reports from previous years, pick those units that produce.  Harvest reports are available on the wdfw website.

Any other questions feel free to PM me, ill try to get back to ya.

Good luck!  Elk hunting is my favorite thing to do!


PS: use your nose, elk stink.  If you can smell them, they have been there recently.  I rely on my nose a lot. 
Also, elknut is a guy that produces a lot of good elk hunting tutorials.  Check out his videos, hes just your average hunter (very successful) and shares his tips on his self made dvd's.  I owe him a shout out, his stuff has helped me a good amount.
very good points , I agree totally  :tup:

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2012, 09:02:24 PM »
Being from Wisconsin i have never hunted elk before. I've deer hunted all my life and consider myself to be a fairly good hunter/outdoorsman. I would like to ask for a few pointers on hunting NE Wa, but it seems nobody is willing to give any solid info other than "go look for yourself." I know how to walk around the woods and scout, and i think i've found a spot that will hold some elk for the fall. I'm not looking to shoot a huge elk. I will shoot anything other than a calf. Just having the opportunity to hunt elk is a dream come true for me.

What i want to know is some general elk hunting tactics/calling? I'm going to go early season archery hunting and i am wondering how well the animals actually respond to calls, or will i be better off stalking silently?

Plz don't give me any dumb answers. I already think this forum is almost useless for learning due to the fact that most people on here don't give up their "secrets"

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As for me, I've not hunted NE.  I hear that they are few and far between in most of the places; thus the any elk tags.  You need to get boots on the ground after you read articles, this forum, books, etc.  I have Elknut's Playbook.  It is a great starting point.  Get to know us and we will reciprocate.  We are not as bad as you are led to believe.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2012, 09:39:14 PM »
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 12:26:28 AM »
Recurve reminded me of me, until he said how long he hunts...
I leave camp in the dark, and return after dark, eat, sleep, repeat.
but his tactics work, I just see a lot of animals between 10:00 AM, and 4:00 PM, but you gotta be in the trees, or ridgelines, as bedded animal will get up and move once they are no longer in the shade, do a little stretch, maybe feed a little...
If the lead cow decides she is thirsty, she decides they are ALL thirsty, and they will ALL go get a drink, anytime elk are on the move is a good time to hunt, as that is when they are most willing to "go over there" as long as it is close to the direction they are traveling, or on the way, and elk talk to each other constantly, whether you can hear them , or not.
They have huge satellite antenna for ears, and can hear a mouse fart from 100 yards, but ignore all sounds that are natural (like mouse farts), any sound they hear that they cannot identify, gets their eyeballs on it, until they identify it, that is why calls are effective in this situation, if they cannot see you, or smell you, and you can convince them you are not a threat, they will ignore you, until you get their attention again, then it is what can change your whole day, are you flagging your spot, or are you looking for the next one ?

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 10:42:24 AM »
Recurve reminded me of me, until he said how long he hunts...
I leave camp in the dark, and return after dark, eat, sleep, repeat.
but his tactics work, I just see a lot of animals between 10:00 AM, and 4:00 PM, but you gotta be in the trees, or ridgelines, as bedded animal will get up and move once they are no longer in the shade, do a little stretch, maybe feed a little...
If the lead cow decides she is thirsty, she decides they are ALL thirsty, and they will ALL go get a drink, anytime elk are on the move is a good time to hunt, as that is when they are most willing to "go over there" as long as it is close to the direction they are traveling, or on the way, and elk talk to each other constantly, whether you can hear them , or not.
They have huge satellite antenna for ears, and can hear a mouse fart from 100 yards, but ignore all sounds that are natural (like mouse farts), any sound they hear that they cannot identify, gets their eyeballs on it, until they identify it, that is why calls are effective in this situation, if they cannot see you, or smell you, and you can convince them you are not a threat, they will ignore you, until you get their attention again, then it is what can change your whole day, are you flagging your spot, or are you looking for the next one ?

Good point.  Mid day hunting can be successful as well.  If i head out mid day I usually post up around waterholes, or still hunt the dense timber.  I tend to do more of this type of hunting on overcast cooler days.  Generally I am in camp relaxing though  :chuckle:

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2012, 04:11:33 PM »
Are you financially blessed? Hiring a guide that comes with good referrals is the best bet. If they're worth their weight in salt, they'll let you pick their brain the whole week. Nothing like standing alongside a pro.

Look at a current map and find ridgelines and saddles that are far from roads. That is your honey hole.

What weapon will you be hunting with? If archery or muzzy, you could hunt a cow OTC unit, if just killing one for the experience is more important than trying to hold out for a trophy.

If you're going to hunt in September you'd better have at least one hunting partner that is in shape and a couple of good pack frames or came carts. Temps are a little hot to be leaving meat out for days.

Skip the Hoochie Mama and go with a diaphram call.

I'm saving for another wi black bear hunt for next fall, otherwise i would be more inclined to pay for a guide. I do enjoy trying to figure things out on my own though. I think its a big part of the challenge for me. I am going solo, but i'm not going too far away from friends with strong legs and backs. I'm good on the whole after kill aspect, I used to butcher 75-100 whitetail/year and just about every kind of farm animal back home in WI.

I appreciate all the tips so far. I will definitely post some pics of my scouting and hunting adventures. I'll be down in georgia for a few weeks, but i'll be able to do another solid scouting trip 19-22 july, and a few other weekends before the season starts. 
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2012, 11:26:08 PM »
I'm not much of an archery hunter but one thing i haven't heard mention is i would call up the local fish and game department and ask to talk to a biologist of the area you plan to hunt. Then ask him where you can pick up a fireman map of that area. Trust me its a really great tool it shows you every road access and bunny trail and if the roads are gated off or not. Then i would go down to the local sheriffs departmen and get a ORV map of the same area. Best two tools i never go elk hunting without. Once done call up the same biologist and pick his brain a little. Their more then willing to talk to you it is their job. But that's just me and i have had much success weather luck was on my side. One other thing as i seen mentioned. Smell if you smell elk their pretty close by.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2012, 11:53:19 PM »
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I'm not much of an archery hunter but one thing i haven't heard mention is i would call up the local fish and game department and ask to talk to a biologist of the area you plan to hunt.
Good Luck in Washington!!
You can find the regional Bio's for the areas in the contact section on the WDFW webpage, but unless you send an email to administration it will take months for an answer,
And then they will tell you they are a "forest practices" biologist, and dont really know about the game populations, and tell you to try "so and so", the only good biologists are in the field.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2012, 05:09:27 PM »
I'm not much of an archery hunter but one thing i haven't heard mention is i would call up the local fish and game department and ask to talk to a biologist of the area you plan to hunt. Then ask him where you can pick up a fireman map of that area. Trust me its a really great tool it shows you every road access and bunny trail and if the roads are gated off or not. Then i would go down to the local sheriffs departmen and get a ORV map of the same area. Best two tools i never go elk hunting without. Once done call up the same biologist and pick his brain a little. Their more then willing to talk to you it is their job. But that's just me and i have had much success weather luck was on my side. One other thing as i seen mentioned. Smell if you smell elk their pretty close by.

I've called and they only told me that there aren't many out there, but the population has been increasing.

I've also made my own maps on mytopo.com and have some from work that cover other areas i am not planning on hunting, but may still go check out.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2012, 05:23:50 PM »
 :tup: welcome to the battlegrounds  :chuckle: elk in the northeast tend to be small herds and scattered about pretty well. A lot of them know where public land ends and private non pressured begins.  This year it switched to bulls only, some see this as the offset the new pressure on the small herd from the onset of wolves.  One thing I have noticed so far this year is elk move out of the area if wolves are present and hunting. One area I used to keep in my back pocket held a herd of 10-15 elk. The herd has been unseen since this winter, wolves were documented there last fall. Having to callers call back and forth with a combo of cow and bugles has worked well for me in the past.  :tup:

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2012, 06:26:18 PM »
Ihuntforchrist, Don't shoot Jesus, not cool man, not cool!
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2012, 06:35:51 PM »
from what i'm gathering, I just have to find them and then hunt them like any other kind of elk.

I found a spot that has elk now, but i doubt they'll be there 3 months from now. guess i'll just have to burn some more boot leather.

Ihuntforchrist, Don't shoot Jesus, not cool man, not cool!

not exactly what i'm going for with the name. I hope to some day have a hunting ministry called ihuntforchrist ministries. I want to focus on having family oriented hunts. I know from my childhood that hunting with my dad and family only brought us closer together
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2012, 09:41:06 AM »
i found some!!! I know it definitely doesn't mean i'm going to kill one, but at least i know they do exist. [smg id=11576]

I saw 3 cows, a spike, and a calf. there were more in the area that i could hear talking to each other, but i didn't see them. i'm pretty excited for Sept
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2012, 08:07:24 PM »
ihfC, don't get down on the site, it's a good place to blog, and just roll with the punches thrown from some folks. They're good people. There really is a great deal of info to be found. I'm not even from these boy's neck of the woods, and I alway's find something interesting. I do live south of you, in Oregon, have been huntin' elk here for the last 35 years, and even had a little luck with it. Couldn't tell you a thing about huntin' the Spokane area though. I'm not an east side hunter either. I hunted twice ( '87 & '88 ) on the east side in oregon, and didn't enjoy either hunt. I love the west central side though in the middle of October down here ( Cascade General Hunt ). 7 day's of grueling, sweating, often soaked to the bone fun. ( It has to be fun, or I still wouldn't doing it at 61 ) I'll try to help you out some. Just supply me with a couple of ? at a throw and I'll try to get some answers to ya. First thing I'd recommend is to buy J.Phelps cow calls, and a couple of his diaphragm calls, then get to work on those. Then, if you think I might help any. I don't mind sharing with you. Bull :tup:

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Re: New to elk
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2012, 10:13:03 PM »
i'm not down on the site, I was tdy the last month. I'm also not the kind of guy that posts on everything i read. thanks for the tips.

Now that i've found a few animals i plan on spending the few free weekends i have keeping stock of these animals and getting to know there habits. Maybe I'll find the herd bull and forget that i don't know anything about elk.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2012, 07:27:08 AM »
if you have never killed an elk, be prepared for an undertaking if you do.  nothing more difficult to clean an elk that has lodged itself between trees, or logs or in a hole.  take a small tarp(to throw the meat on once off the animal), game bags(or large pillow cases, but not garbage bags), couple sharp knives, sharpener, packable saw, pack frame, 50ft cord, and pepper for the flies and bees if their bad, and any help you can get.
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2012, 08:56:45 AM »
One thing I have learned is to learn there escape routes. Last year muzzy hunting I got busted by some elk in a clear cut.  after realizing there was no way to catch up to them, off to the truck I went. Somewhere down the road they crossed in front of me. I pulled out the map and started looking at the best route they would have taken. so a few days later, I was back in the clear cut......busted once again. I hurried to a spot that I figure they would travel and shot an elk. The cool thing was, I was able to use this also during a rifle season for a friend.....the elk did come thru there but we where not successful this time.

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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2012, 01:20:06 PM »
if you have never killed an elk, be prepared for an undertaking if you do.  nothing more difficult to clean an elk that has lodged itself between trees, or logs or in a hole.  take a small tarp(to throw the meat on once off the animal), game bags(or large pillow cases, but not garbage bags), couple sharp knives, sharpener, packable saw, pack frame, 50ft cord, and pepper for the flies and bees if their bad, and any help you can get.
good luck and i love your handle name my man...........GO JC

I've never killed an elk, but I have packed a lot of whitetails out of the woods. I've also butchered hundreds of animals of all sizes. I never thought about the pepper for the bees.

What game bags do you use?

as far as packing it out. I have a strong back and a weak mind. so it should be fun
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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2012, 01:41:22 PM »
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We had a guy from Pennsylvania come hunt with us one year, killed a cow on opening day.
Luckily he had lots of help getting it hung at camp, but found out that 1 elk equals about 4 whitetail.
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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2012, 01:43:24 PM »
don't get the chinsy cheese cloth kind.  by the time you pull it over the quarter, you mind as well have nothing on it.  there are some you can get that are thicker.  walmart, bimart, and wholesale sports carry them for around 12 bucks for 4 bags.  or the kind that are prerolled up and look like big donuts.  they come in packs of 4 as well.  you can wash them for several seasons.  those huge ones you can get that are as thick as a wall tent are over kill. 
as for comparing whitetails to elk.  not sure there is a comparison, with weight, amount of trips and the crazy terrain.  if you have butchered livestock in a controlled environment, then all i can say is..you have butchered livestock in a controlled environment.  prolly hanging with stainless tables and the sort.  add steep terrain, dirt, grass, bees, flies, where you are, prolly grizzlies, time and distance to a freezer.  the scale has shifted a bit.  especially in NE washington.  i guess every hunter has a learning curve, but don't underestimate the difficulty.  if anything, be overprepared, if there is such a thing.
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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2012, 10:03:46 PM »
as for comparing whitetails to elk.  not sure there is a comparison, with weight, amount of trips and the crazy terrain.  if you have butchered livestock in a controlled environment, then all i can say is..you have butchered livestock in a controlled environment.  prolly hanging with stainless tables and the sort.  add steep terrain, dirt, grass, bees, flies, where you are, prolly grizzlies, time and distance to a freezer.  the scale has shifted a bit.  especially in NE washington.  i guess every hunter has a learning curve, but don't underestimate the difficulty.  if anything, be overprepared, if there is such a thing.
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I've packed multiple deer out (whole and/or quartered) on multiple occasions for many miles. 90 lbs on your back is still 90 lbs.

And no I grew up on a farm where we butchered our own animals. No stainless steel tables with conveyors. Just a dead cow on the ground that needs to go in the freezer, some tarps and a few stainless bowls. Not much different than what i imagine feild dressing to be.

I'm not saying its easy. I just dont really care if its hard. That's what makes good memories.  :tup:
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Re: New to elk
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2012, 10:40:15 PM »
ihfc, don't worry you are not alone. This is going to be my first year hunting period and decided to do it with a bow no less. Hang in there. One lesson I have already learned is to get in the gym and stay there during the week and hike/scout year round. Think my new routine is going to be work and gym all week with hikes/scouting just about year round on the weekends.

Might even get good enough to buy a new bow!!

 


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