Misinformed humans are a fawns real enemy...

[JimmyHoffa]

Surprised WolfHaven doesn't take in fawns for 'rehabilitation'.

[bobcat]

 

Perhaps this is part of the problem:

Which problem? The article was meant to help prevent deer from being taken to these wildlife rehabilitation centers. I think it's a good idea to try to educate uninformed people, so they don't pick up and try to "save" fawns they find. And that's just what the article was doing. The WDFW doing what they are supposed to be doing and people still complain.   

[ICEMAN]

Gee Iceman, are ya running out of legitimate stuff to complain about, or what? All I see is a news release put out by Fish & Wildlife to inform people that they don't need to "save" newborn fawns this time of year. I see absolutley no reason to bitch about this. They didn't spend any money, how much did it cost for someone to write this up? I doubt it cost anything, just an employee who was getting paid to be at work anyway. Anyone who has a desire to go out and hunt predators, will do so, they don't need to be told by Fish & Wildlife.

They didn't spend any money on it? How sophmoric can you get?

First off, it is the mindset which I dislike the most. If it is their goal to save wildlife, there are far more cost effective approaches to saving fawns than to set up a network of individuals, managed by the state, to coordinate the rescue of a couple dozen fawns a year. Does it make me feel all nice and warm and fuzzy that folks are saving fawns to return to nature later? Yes. Does it make me happy that it sounds like most of the efforts to rehab the wild game are volunteers? Yes.

But, here is the gripe and thank you KFhunter for the link and info; We have a WDFW employee and staff who are costing taxpayers to coordinate all of these efforts, write news releases, and who knows what else; that could have actually made a difference by addressing the real problem, not this made up problem.

How much does this program cost a year to the taxpayers to manage?

How many deer are "saved" each year?

Lets do a little cost/benefit analysis on this.

Do we really need the state to get involved with so many volunteers out there on this?

These are my questions. Sorry they bother you Bobcat but I am not so niave that I do not see the waste and do not see the motive and vision of the department by their action.

I don't care if this program costs taxpayers under $100k to manage for the year, it is too much IMHO. I would rather they spend the 100K on a few tv commercials showing the true damage to the fawn population by predators. THIS would be a cost effective use of taxpayer dollars IMHO, not some fluffy "feel good" program to keep all the birdwatchers satiated.

[Skyvalhunter]

Your right Iceman. Anytime that the WDFW puts something out it never costs nothing.

[bobcat]

Iceman- ok I understand your complaint now. I thought you were only griping about the fact that they wrote the article informing people that they shouldn't mess with fawns. When I said it didn't cost anything I was referring to the article, that took someone 15 minutes to write.

[runamuk]

So often I feel like time and effort are wasted in many of these types of attempts. Like the effort to find homes to hundreds of pound kitties and puppies. They spay them and spray them and get them all fixed up for adoption... Seems like wasted effort often IMHO. Pets would be more valuable to everyone if there were less of them and I often feel they should more quickly put them down in the animal shelter. Better to spend the money on education than trying to rescue wounded or injured animals with no home....

On the fawn front, it would seem like better money spent would be on advising the hunters the need for additional time spent whacking the predator population down. How many rescued and returned to the wild deer are they talking about? State wide in a year? How many?  Seems they could save a whole lot more deer by opening up additional spring bear permits, opening cougar season earlier or letting it run longer. Wolves?    Nope, it is us stupid humans occasionally carrying a newborn deer that are the real problem.

totally off topic did you know there are shortages of shelter dogs in some areas and they import small strays from places like mexico to fill the need ( these shelters often charge upwards of $500 a dog as well) the spay and neuter campaigns are something that has worked amazingly well yet we never hear about that just that there is overpopulation which is another misnomer used to sway and control.

ok back to arguing