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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2014, 06:14:09 PM »
I have no problem with the guy keeping it.  I perfer to eat the smaller ones though.  I have eaten a few from alaska pushing 200lbs and I didn't care for them.
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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2014, 06:30:20 PM »
Sounds like there is alot of stink in the fishing community over the retention of a large halibut caught recently. Some people felt the angler should have released the fish because the large ones are the baby factories. Theres a call for releasing of the large ones.
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/reeltimenorthwest/2014/05/29/photos-mammoth-halibut-caught-in-eastern-strait-of-juan-de-fuca/

Is there more than this? Or does a couple negative comments on a website constitute a controversy?
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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2014, 06:50:52 PM »
One of the best years in along time for halibut ..friends of mine in Anacortes just put the hurtin to them this year ..Dandy fish  :tup: :tup:

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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2014, 08:03:53 PM »
It is my understanding and I am sure people will correct me if I am wrong that like Ling cod the larger fish are the ones that produce the most off spring. So in keeping those we possibly impact future fishing populations. I also understand the long liners(commercial) have more of an impact than sport fishermen.

That is true to some extent.  The main difference between halibut and ling cod is the concentration of spawning and sport fishing.  A large female ling will lay her eggs on a particular shallow reef and repopulate a large portion of that reef and perhaps nearby reefs.  These eggs cling to the rocks or vegetation and stay in that environment.  If it happens to be a popular fishing spot that one large female may be responsible for years of good productive fishing.  And if she is taken out of the breeding population it could have a direct effect on the fishing in that region for quite some time.

Halibut also increase egg production with size and age.  But they are not reef hatchers.  Most halibut spawning is done in very deep water outside the continental shelf maybe 200 to 300 fathoms in depth.  A mature female might lay between two and three million eggs in this deep water and they hatch in about 15 days.  These eggs or larvae at this point are free floating and have been recorded as traveling hundreds of miles over the course of six months before mature enough to establish a home.  So repopulation in a specific area has more to do with ocean currents than spawning in a particular area. 

So while keeping a large female may definitely reduce the number of eggs laid in the ocean each year by a million or so this doesn't necessarily mean it will effect halibut densities in a favored fishing spot. In fact, chances are it won't effect that spot at all.  It may not even effect the straights if currents change in that particular year.  That is not the case with ling cod.  And why it is much more important to release lingcod over 40# than a large halibut that may or may not be a female.

And relative speaking, that 192# fish in the article isn't really all that big.  Probably not even consistent with the age and spawning equivalent of a 40# ling.  I release every ling cod I catch over 25#!  Have since I was a teenager.  But, I would have whacked that barn door just the same as the chickens laying next to it!
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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2014, 08:27:49 PM »
If the big ones need to be saved then WDFW should create a slot size limit to save the big ones like with sturgeon. If the current style of management is ensuring a lasting fishery then I don't see a problem.

The guy did everything right, congrats to him on taking a fantastic fish.  :tup:

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Re: Controversary over retaining of large halibut
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 09:49:52 PM »
Though my preference is the little guys, 50lbs>, I don't have any problem with sportsmen keeping big fish. In the grand scheme of things, the amount of fish sportsman take compared to the commercial fleet is a tiny drop in the bucket, a few big fish, especially when were talking 100's of metric tons taken by the commercial fleet, makes no difference. :twocents:
Don't even get me started on commercial bycatch, the wastage there will make you,  :puke:
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 10:17:35 PM by Angus »

 


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