baiting big game

[steeleywhopper]

 

Hunters are their own worst enemy.


If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

[pips4bucks]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

What are you going to tell the handicapped kid who really wants to shoot a deer, or the old guy who can't hike the hills anymore, or the dad taking his young kids out?  It could be you in years to come.

WDFW encourages baiting in problem areas to thin herds.  Take that tool away and then what happens?  State and City officials may have to pay sharp shooters to come in and do the job hunters would be happy to do.  More taxpayer burden.

How about we stop getting our hunting/trapping privileges taken away?  Here's a few things we can't do anymore;
Hound hunting for cats and bears
Baiting for bears
Use of leg hold and body gripping traps

All of those things were taken away via voter initiative.  Thank you D-bag Washington voters....

Just because you don't do it doesn't give you the right to take that away from anyone else. 

[jnevs23]

Dear longrangehunter,
I think it's an unfair advantage to hunt at long ranges. Ban long range shots!

[gonehuntin68]

That style of hunting may not be for you but why would you want to deny others from using this style of hunting? If its not for you don't do it!

 

[vandeman17]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.

some people never cease to amaze me. I don't like "long range" hunting and will never partake myself. Does that mean I want it banned? Heck no, to each their own

[LabChamp]

This is exactly what they want, us fighting against our selves. A divided army is easy to defeat. I'm appalled by us not supporting eachother, and how easy it was to divide us. AGAIN. Simply put: don't like it don't do it, don't be an arrogant *censored* who thinks he knows what's ethical for everyone else who doesn't hunt like you. Look what happened to our hatchery steelhead this year. One small group, really hosed the majority. I ask you guys to think about this. First hound hunting and baiting for cougar/bear, next wolves are back, now steelhead are gone. Notice a trend? One small group always screwed it over for the rest and since it was put into law, its not gonna change anytime soon. And now we are lining up to confine our deer hunting tactics based on personal opinion on hunting ethics. Please remove head from backside, and see what's really happening each time we give up a piece of our freedom. It never comes back. Don't screw it up for everyone else just bc YOU don't like it. That is the definition of arrogance: an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people. (Webster dictionary)


(please, no profanity)

[teanawayslayer]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.

i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

[benhuntin]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.

i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think yours statement is ignorant!

Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic.


If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

[fly4fish]

Long range hunters should be the last to decide how others should hunt. Each method of hunting has an opposing side and different views on what is right or wrong. At least most bait piles are close enough to the hunter that the deer's instincts and senses are an asset. Most long range shots, a hunter can be upwind and talk at normal levels without detection. I choose to stay away from both methods, but it is not my place to tell others they may or may not.

What about hunting over water? An animal can eat anywhere, but there are typically only a few places to drink.

[Ccortez]

I only bait to get animals on my cameras to see what's around. I rarely get an animal In the area I baited but its nice to know they are in the area. like this year for instance I didn't bait or have a camera in the area and was the first year we pulled an elk out of there. and I had cameras and bait in there every year for 4years. what Im trying to say is just because you bait an area doesn't mean its a slam dunk

[Becky]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.

i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

You absolutely missed the point.

[netcoyote]

Ultimately, shouldn't this decision (to bait or not bait) be based on the biological implications of the decision? Does it affect the health or the size of any game population? After all, THAT should be what we are interested in as hunters. If you start throwing emotions, politics and the "them vs us" mentality into the conversation, everyone looses, including the game population.
This stuff is red meat for politicians and creating internal group conflict just adds fuel to the fire. So far I haven't heard anyone speak to the biological side of the argument. Maybe there is not much data to draw on. If that's the case, maybe that is where the effort should be focused.

There...that settles it...

[jrebel]

Ultimately, shouldn't this decision (to bait or not bait) be based on the biological implications of the decision? Does it affect the health or the size of any game population? After all, THAT should be what we are interested in as hunters. If you start throwing emotions, politics and the "them vs us" mentality into the conversation, everyone looses, including the game population.
This stuff is red meat for politicians and creating internal group conflict just adds fuel to the fire. So far I haven't heard anyone speak to the biological side of the argument. Maybe there is not much data to draw on. If that's the case, maybe that is where the effort should be focused.

There...that settles it...

Very well said. 

[_TONY_]

Ultimately, shouldn't this decision (to bait or not bait) be based on the biological implications of the decision? Does it affect the health or the size of any game population? After all, THAT should be what we are interested in as hunters. If you start throwing emotions, politics and the "them vs us" mentality into the conversation, everyone looses, including the game population.
This stuff is red meat for politicians and creating internal group conflict just adds fuel to the fire. So far I haven't heard anyone speak to the biological side of the argument. Maybe there is not much data to draw on. If that's the case, maybe that is where the effort should be focused.

There...that settles it...

I agree with you 100%

[3nails]

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.

i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

Have you had your morning coffee yet? Maybe make a stronger second cup!