Grandson Rifle

[ghosthunter]

Ok
I have a 14 year old Grandson. Who will go through H.E. Next year.
He was born with bi lateral cleft lip and pallet. He has many surgeries over the years on his face,mouth and ears.
Children with cleft you may not know often have severe problem with their ears.

On top of this his ears are extremely sensitive to noise like the report of a firearm.
Even with muffs. If his parents take him any where loud noise might be present they also take muffs.

He has been shooting .22s for years. But is only now wanting to step up to higher caliber rifle.

Sooooo here is my mission;
I want to buy him one rifle that can take any game in Washington.
Coyote,bear,deer,elk.
Must be low re- coil or fitted with the best recoil reducer possible.
Low report or be able to be fitted with suppressor .
Must be bolt action, right handed.
Topped with a 3x9  scope.

So what are your suggestions? Or ideas.

[Dan-o]

Dick's has a Savage Axis in today's add (with a fishbonker 3x9) for $199.     

If you got him a 7MM-08, you'd be good to go for anything.

I don't know how to cut down on noise......

[ghosthunter]

Here he is.

[ghosthunter]

What are thoughts on a .308 or .243 ?

[huntnphool]

Ruger American Compact 7mm-08 http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleCompact/specSheets/6909.html

[Mark251]

Something chambered in 7mm-08 or a .308 may be the way to go.  Both offer a little less recoil and a cartridge that can be suitable for any game in Washington. Would your Grandson be okay with a rifle that may be a little heavier?  If so, Cabela's has the Weatherby Vanguard on sale for $450.  They're great rifles for the money...a bit heavy for a carry rifle but the weight can help to reduce felt recoil.  I think noise is going to be a factor with whatever you choose.  Would a good pair of electronic muffs help?  Also, Cabela's is advertising the Leupold VX-2 on sale.  I have several Leupolds and the VX-2 is a great scope for an entry-level package.  Just my thoughts.....

[huntnphool]

What are thoughts on a .308 or .243 ?

243, 7mm-08 (.284) and 308 are all the same case, just necked down to accommodate smaller diameter bullets.

[Westside88]

I'm sure you'll get many good suggestions for a low recoil versital caliber. Is a sound suppressor an option? I'm not very versed in the rules for them, but I thought there was talk of allowing them for hunting.

[carpsniperg2]

7mm-08 would be a great choice. If the recoil is still a but much and you guys don't handload. Hornady does light/reduced recoil loads for the 7mm-08 and 308 as well.

Since you said suppressor I am guessing someone he can hunt with has one? A great choice would be a ruger predator in 308. Already threaded and ready for a suppressor. I run one and they are great guns. Basically the same as the plain American models.

A suppressor can take a year or more to get with the wait times and you are looking at a 200.00 tax stamp and atleast 500 for a 30 cal suppressor. So figure atleast 700.00 if you are going that route.

[Hilltop123]

If you reload , you can make some pretty effective reduced recoil loads for the 308. I do this for my wife, she took her first elk this season with the 308.  Matched with a rifle of moderate weight, should fit the bill as far as recoil goes. The noise factor is going to be hard to get around, maybe someone on here has an idea as to deal with that. Good luck.

[ghosthunter]

Ruger American Compact 7mm-08 http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleCompact/specSheets/6909.html

Shoter barrel rifles seem like they have more felt recoil? Any thoughts?

[teanawayslayer]

I just purchased the savage model 11 scout chambered in .308. It comes with a muzzle brake. He is 9 and shoots it well. He put 30 rounds through it the other day with no problem. It has removable spacers on the stock to fit him now and put the spacers back in as he grows. It also has an adjustable cheek pad.

[ghosthunter]

I just purchased the savage model 11 scout chambered in .308. It comes with a muzzle brake. He is 9 and shoots it well. He put 30 rounds through it the other day with no problem. It has removable spacers on the stock to fit him now and put the spacers back in as he grows. It also has an adjustable cheek pad.

I have never used a muzzle break but there was some discussion that they increase report. Any thoughts?

[ghosthunter]

I'm sure you'll get many good suggestions for a low recoil versital caliber. Is a sound suppressor an option? I'm not very versed in the rules for them, but I thought there was talk of allowing them for hunting.

They are legal but they add some to the overall cost. Not sure about all the ins and outs with them.
Previous post says year to get and 200.00 tax.

[ghosthunter]

Maybe there is a better quality ear plug i can get him. Muffs are tough when hunting.