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Hevi-Metal Garbage
« on: September 08, 2016, 03:42:02 PM »
I ran into a problem several years ago where Hevi-metal loads were short of shot.
I was assured the problem was taken care of, Bull!

Note the concave crimp.  The one on the right is terrible and the one on the left is even worse.
These are NOT reloads and came right out of a new box that had not been previously opened.

I will have to cut the bad one open along with one that looks ok and see which component(s) are missing

Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me!   :bash:
Spent most of my $$ on huntin, fishin & retrievin dogs, the rest I just pretty much wasted.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 05:35:54 PM »
Here's a pair of shells from several years ago, with the same problem.  They are a bit dusty from sitting on a shelf in the shop.
Spent most of my $$ on huntin, fishin & retrievin dogs, the rest I just pretty much wasted.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 06:26:07 PM »
A few years back when shotshells were hard to come by I had some just like that.  They were lousy, but they were all I could find so I used them. 

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 07:05:53 PM »
I'll see if I can dig up some pictures of the shells I bought this past season.  All of mine were BB steel shot and they had bulges all over the shells.  Out of one box 17 shells would not fit in any of my shotguns.  They did replace them, but were a pain to deal with.  I wrote that company off for any future business.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 11:03:56 PM »
Hevi metal is over priced and doesn't pattern very well. Blue box federals are where it's at, just ordered a couple cases for $99 a piece.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2016, 05:49:25 AM »
I am just about to buy two cases of shells for my son and I. I am leaning towards black clouds. I don't know what blue box Federal are. Should I do that? $99 sounds good to me?
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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2016, 06:07:39 AM »
I am just about to buy two cases of shells for my son and I. I am leaning towards black clouds. I don't know what blue box Federal are. Should I do that? $99 sounds good to me?
It's the Federal loading that comes in a blue box.
https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/ammunition/federal-steel/federal-speed-shok-steel-waterfowl-12-gauge-3-1-1-8-oz.html

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2016, 06:30:21 AM »
I am just about to buy two cases of shells for my son and I. I am leaning towards black clouds. I don't know what blue box Federal are. Should I do that? $99 sounds good to me?
yeah follow the link that was just posted. No tax and free shipping. Can't beat it. They pattern pretty well out of my Benelli. They are dirty shells but not any worse than black cloud.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2016, 07:41:05 AM »
I know the hevi-steel 20 gauge were not fitting into my son's gun.  Then two seasons ago, they had the big recall on all the shells as you had many duds in the box.  They said the wad caused it and it was due to low temperature.  Didn't make sense on that one.
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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2016, 11:09:04 PM »
Hevi-steel sucks.
 Horrible powder.
Stunk up my gun and took me forever to clean it.

I bought a case of Fiochi.
It's not true that I am good for nothing---I can be used as a bad example!!

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2016, 07:10:50 PM »
We hunt the saltchuck a lot, and the Hevi brand loads have an open crimp allowing water in to the shell. This also makes it an issue when its raining super hard...

Kent fasteel has yet to let me down.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2016, 11:25:02 AM »
Did hear back from Environ Metal on the issue.  They are working with me to resolve this issue.
Where they did respond to my email, We are one step ahead of the situation of a couple of years ago.

I will let you know how it comes out.
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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2016, 04:40:05 PM »
Did hear back from Environ Metal on the issue.  They are working with me to resolve this issue.
Where they did respond to my email, We are one step ahead of the situation of a couple of years ago.

I will let you know how it comes out.


One step ahead because they responded this time?

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2016, 06:10:00 AM »
Did hear back from Environ Metal on the issue.  They are working with me to resolve this issue.
Where they did respond to my email, We are one step ahead of the situation of a couple of years ago.

I will let you know how it comes out.


One step ahead because they responded this time?

Yeah, they recognize that there is a problem.
Spent most of my $$ on huntin, fishin & retrievin dogs, the rest I just pretty much wasted.

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Re: Hevi-Metal Garbage
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2016, 02:12:24 PM »
Oops I have a case of heavy metal 1st home from last year guess I need to burn it up early this year.  I had a bad case of Kent shells 2 seasons ago.

 


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