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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2018, 04:50:09 PM »
I use wind.  It is free and you can find it everywhere!

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2018, 06:38:30 PM »
So how does it give you guys extra time?  If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?

I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt.  Human=danger.

I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom.  Nobody is fooled.


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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2018, 07:43:09 PM »
I sweat too much, can't believe any "scent killing" product would work for me :twocents:
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I snuck in on my bull and his cows and shot him at 80 yards last week. I hadn’t showered in 9 days.  :chuckle:

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2018, 07:53:54 PM »
You can do things to reduce your scent. Who will a blacktail smell first...the hungover guy that crapped his pants, or the guy that was religious about scent control??

 :chuckle:  Nice.

Every time I fart it smells like I crapped my pants.
Are you saying I should hold it in.
That will make my belly hurt by the end of the day. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2018, 06:24:09 AM »
So how does it give you guys extra time?  If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?

I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt.  Human=danger.

I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom.  Nobody is fooled.


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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2018, 09:20:48 AM »
When I get to thinking about it, the more I realize it's a waste of money.  I may have showered, etc... but in the end, I'm probably waking up, having a cup of coffee and some breakfast, and letting out a few bombs on my walk to wherever I'm glassing in the morning.  Besides, how useful is scent control when you're 8 miles in and sleeping in a tent and not showering at all? 

Lastly, I've learned that the sprays don't do a very good job of covering up the smell of butt.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2018, 02:06:24 PM »
One of the biggest scam jobs in the industry
Part II..... Sucker born every minute.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2018, 02:32:34 PM »
I'm not real big on sprays but I'm very careful about clothes storage, contamination, foods etc and it makes a big difference.  Reducing the overall scent signature obviously makes a difference and if a spray helps a guy 5-10% then good for him.

Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2018, 03:21:44 PM »
I'm sure it's been discussed in years past, but there are a ton of very knowledgeable black tail guys active the last few days.  Any strong opinions on no scent sprays, brands, methods??

save the money take an extra day off work and learn the wind in your spot.  scent control is 100% about the wind

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2018, 04:36:06 PM »
So how does it give you guys extra time?  If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?

I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt.  Human=danger.

I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom.  Nobody is fooled.


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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.

Actually, large smelly molecules travel slower as it takes them longer to diffuse through the air.  Heavier molecular weight translates to slower velocity, at least it did in my last physics class.  The only thing that impacts the velocity of the "smell" is the size of the particles (as well as other stuff we can't control like barometric pressure, temp, etc).

Take a piece of steak, spray the magic spray on it and show it to your dog.  He'll show you how neutralized the scent is.  If there was a way to neutralize scent with spray, you would have an effective can of that in your bathroom instead of the fake rose scent.  Even if it was possible, 5 minutes later you body would produce scent again.

Besides your body, you have clothes, boots, rifle, bow, bottles of water you handled, lunch, wallet, knife and a dozen other things that all have some type of human or unnatural smell that gives you away.

I read a book and it had a story about a drug sniffing dog that sniffed out a small package of drugs hidden in the gas tank of a motorcycle.  The gas and sealed tank couldn't block or mask the scent, many animals pick out scents separately.  Dog's don't smell chili, they smell all of the ingredients separately.  I imagine deer are similar.

To each their own, if you think it works go for it.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2018, 05:06:58 PM »
Rifle hunting it's not as big of a deal. If your mobile and not hunting out of a tree stand or ground blind its very easy to play the wind.  But IMO you won't find a lot of guys that consistantly kill big whitetail or blacktail with a bow who don't use or practice some sort of scent control.   

I've been archery hunting WA for 10 years. I have killed two whitetail bucks over 160". I'm a LOUSY hunter but I'm extremely patient and I'm religious about scent control. One of those two bucks was 8 years old, very wise and came in to 22 yards in swirly wind and never knew I was there. The other one was 6 years old and came in from strait down wind to 17 yards and never knew I was there. I'm lucky but I'm not that lucky.

So does practicing scent control make me a sucker? If so I'm pretty happy to be one every time I look at my wall!


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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2018, 05:48:20 PM »
So how does it give you guys extra time?  If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?

I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt.  Human=danger.

I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom.  Nobody is fooled.


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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.

Actually, large smelly molecules travel slower as it takes them longer to diffuse through the air.  Heavier molecular weight translates to slower velocity, at least it did in my last physics class.  The only thing that impacts the velocity of the "smell" is the size of the particles (as well as other stuff we can't control like barometric pressure, temp, etc).

Take a piece of steak, spray the magic spray on it and show it to your dog.  He'll show you how neutralized the scent is.  If there was a way to neutralize scent with spray, you would have an effective can of that in your bathroom instead of the fake rose scent.  Even if it was possible, 5 minutes later you body would produce scent again.

Besides your body, you have clothes, boots, rifle, bow, bottles of water you handled, lunch, wallet, knife and a dozen other things that all have some type of human or unnatural smell that gives you away.

I read a book and it had a story about a drug sniffing dog that sniffed out a small package of drugs hidden in the gas tank of a motorcycle.  The gas and sealed tank couldn't block or mask the scent, many animals pick out scents separately.  Dog's don't smell chili, they smell all of the ingredients separately.  I imagine deer are similar.

To each their own, if you think it works go for it.
Made me remember, Febreze couldnt sell. It was an odor neutralizer with no smell of it's own. They had to add the smells to get it to sell.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2018, 07:19:18 PM »
Rifle hunting it's not as big of a deal. If your mobile and not hunting out of a tree stand or ground blind its very easy to play the wind.  But IMO you won't find a lot of guys that consistantly kill big whitetail or blacktail with a bow who don't use or practice some sort of scent control.   

I've been archery hunting WA for 10 years. I have killed two whitetail bucks over 160". I'm a LOUSY hunter but I'm extremely patient and I'm religious about scent control. One of those two bucks was 8 years old, very wise and came in to 22 yards in swirly wind and never knew I was there. The other one was 6 years old and came in from strait down wind to 17 yards and never knew I was there. I'm lucky but I'm not that lucky.

So does practicing scent control make me a sucker? If so I'm pretty happy to be one every time I look at my wall!

With respect, we have no idea whether the buck knew you were there or not.  The fact is that you killed both of them.  What the deer smelled, thought, etc. etc. is beyond our knowledge.  At best it is a theory.

I have had bull elk, bull moose, mule deer and black bears plus called coyotes and fox all within touching distance.  All without scent control on my part. Blacktails, lynx, bobcats and caribou within ten feet or considerably less.  What does it prove?  That I got close to them.  Period. 

Recently when I was still hunting along an old road, a mule deer stepped onto the road 25 yards downwind of me.  She walked up the wind toward me to within ten yards, and then casually strolled off of the road to feed.  She never knew I was there, in spite of a McDonald's hamburger on my breath and my Good Will store wool dress pants and plaid shirt.  This event is proof positive that a deer cannot smell a hamburger nor see a human carrying a rifle if he is wearing second hand clothes from Good Will.

Go for it if it gives you confidence or is part of getting into your game face mental state for hunting.  I do not mean to discourage that, yet I hate to see inexperienced hunters put effort and money into what I consider useless effort to defeat wild animal scenting ability.








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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 07:52:10 PM »
I think scent control has its place, but playing the wind is what matters most.

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Re: No scent sprays/methods
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2018, 08:22:26 PM »
I'm sure it's been discussed in years past, but there are a ton of very knowledgeable black tail guys active the last few days.  Any strong opinions on no scent sprays, brands, methods??

save the money take an extra day off work and learn the wind in your spot.  scent control is 100% about the wind

Some areas I would agree but that’s laughable in the swirly places, of which there are a lot
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

 


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