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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2021, 07:45:32 AM »
We probably will never see this either:


To reclassify from state endangered to state threatened status: 6 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 2 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions.


To reclassify from state threatened to state sensitive status: 12 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions.


To delist from state sensitive status: 15 successful breeding pairs present for 3 consecutive years, with 4 successful breeding pairs in each of the three recovery regions and 3 successful breeding pairs anywhere in the state.


In addition to the delisting objective of 15 successful breeding pairs distributed in the three geographic regions for 3 consecutive years, an alternative delisting objective is also established whereby the gray wolf will be considered for delisting when 18 successful breeding pairs are present, with 4 successful breeding pairs in the Eastern Washington region, 4 successful breeding pairs in the Northern Cascades region, 4 successful breeding pairs distributed in the Southern Cascades and Northwest Coast region, and 6 anywhere in the state

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2021, 07:52:08 AM »
hunter399 has pretty much spelled it out for everybody.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2021, 08:02:27 AM »
When you talk of aerial hunting the bill will be dead on arrival. Even in Alaska it is unpopular. Expanding hunting seasons and more importantly trapping opportunities will fly under the radar and do the job.

A low cost trapping opportunity for out of state trappers would be a win-win for the state.
Im curious to see where this goes.  Expanded hunting and trapping will do nothing to curb wolves.  You you have to kill 50-75% of the population each year just to maintain! No way to do that without arial gunning.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2021, 10:45:28 AM »
When you talk of aerial hunting the bill will be dead on arrival. Even in Alaska it is unpopular. Expanding hunting seasons and more importantly trapping opportunities will fly under the radar and do the job.

A low cost trapping opportunity for out of state trappers would be a win-win for the state.
Im curious to see where this goes.  Expanded hunting and trapping will do nothing to curb wolves.  You you have to kill 50-75% of the population each year just to maintain! No way to do that without arial gunning.

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I'm pretty sure aerial means were not used to rid them the first time. It can be done with the right motivations. Like money!
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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2021, 08:59:42 AM »
When you talk of aerial hunting the bill will be dead on arrival. Even in Alaska it is unpopular. Expanding hunting seasons and more importantly trapping opportunities will fly under the radar and do the job.

A low cost trapping opportunity for out of state trappers would be a win-win for the state.
Im curious to see where this goes.  Expanded hunting and trapping will do nothing to curb wolves.  You you have to kill 50-75% of the population each year just to maintain! No way to do that without arial gunning.

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I'm pretty sure aerial means were not used to rid them the first time. It can be done with the right motivations. Like money!
No it wasnt but the study done outside of Denali NP said that in the normal course of hunting and trapping even with liberal seasons you could only take a very small % of the population. It may not be popular, but there was a reason why most bush piolets had an AR in the plane!

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2021, 09:15:38 AM »
I'm pretty sure aerial means were not used to rid them the first time. It can be done with the right motivations. Like money!

I'm pretty sure it was poison that actually did them in the first time. Sure, boot hunting/bait hunting/trapping took care of some, but the poison did the heavy lifting.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2021, 09:38:34 AM »
I'm pretty sure aerial means were not used to rid them the first time. It can be done with the right motivations. Like money!

I'm pretty sure it was poison that actually did them in the first time. Sure, boot hunting/bait hunting/trapping took care of some, but the poison did the heavy lifting.

Not that WA or ID will see either but you are 100% correct.
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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2021, 10:09:39 AM »
How hard is it to fly a paramotor?

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2021, 11:06:47 AM »
A friend told me its the landing part thats hard.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2021, 11:12:13 AM »
How hard is it to fly a paramotor?

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Better question would be

How hard would it be to shoot a rifle while flying one?

I would think it would be nearly impossible.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2021, 12:23:38 PM »
From what I hear, I think this legislation has a good chance of passing.  :twocents:
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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2021, 02:23:56 PM »
How hard is it to fly a paramotor?

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Better question would be

How hard would it be to shoot a rifle while flying one?

I would think it would be nearly impossible.
They got tandem ones, I fly you shoot.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2021, 07:46:21 PM »
When you talk of aerial hunting the bill will be dead on arrival. Even in Alaska it is unpopular. Expanding hunting seasons and more importantly trapping opportunities will fly under the radar and do the job.

A low cost trapping opportunity for out of state trappers would be a win-win for the state.
Im curious to see where this goes.  Expanded hunting and trapping will do nothing to curb wolves.  You you have to kill 50-75% of the population each year just to maintain! No way to do that without arial gunning.

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I'm pretty sure aerial means were not used to rid them the first time. It can be done with the right motivations. Like money!
No it wasnt but the study done outside of Denali NP said that in the normal course of hunting and trapping even with liberal seasons you could only take a very small % of the population. It may not be popular, but there was a reason why most bush piolets had an AR in the plane!

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Normal trapping in Alaska is having one trapper with a "claimed" area the size of a Washington county. Also weather and access issues are much different. Apples and oranges.

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2021, 08:29:52 PM »
When you talk of aerial hunting the bill will be dead on arrival. Even in Alaska it is unpopular. Expanding hunting seasons and more importantly trapping opportunities will fly under the radar and do the job.

A low cost trapping opportunity for out of state trappers would be a win-win for the state.
 

Im not sure about that with out of state trapping we already have traps under every tree in the panhandle. I think its Educating the wolves  more than any else.  I agree 100 percent better just to go with expanding hopefully to year around trapping and hunting seasons

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Re: Legislation aims to drastically reduce Idaho wolf population
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2021, 10:21:34 PM »
Ya they are, its crazy

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