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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #90 on: July 29, 2021, 11:02:52 AM »
What's the name of the antler buyer in that picture? Paul Oatman is a Nez Perce out of Kamiah I see.

I donít recall. I think I counted 9 bulls in that pic. All big mature bulls. Just being killed for profit.
I couldn't see the pic very good but it looked like a bunch of those were shed antlers.  Are you saying there were antlers attached to skulls of 9 big bulls?

Is this Paul Oatman the same guy that assualted a police officer in 2014?
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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #91 on: July 29, 2021, 11:34:54 AM »
What's the name of the antler buyer in that picture? Paul Oatman is a Nez Perce out of Kamiah I see.

I donít recall. I think I counted 9 bulls in that pic. All big mature bulls. Just being killed for profit.
I couldn't see the pic very good but it looked like a bunch of those were shed antlers.  Are you saying there were antlers attached to skulls of 9 big bulls?

Is this Paul Oatman the same guy that assualted a police officer in 2014?

I don't think he's talking about the antlers in the pickup, just the ones in the bottom pic. Looks like those could all be on the skull but like you said its hard to see

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #92 on: July 29, 2021, 03:34:19 PM »
Yeah clearly he's trying to sell them to whoever that antler buyer is. They aren't going to do anything about it either. He will just go shoot more this year and the next. The Blues are the first place I ever saw natives taking elk, and leaving elk... Three cows, one still staggering and two dead left behind. There wasn't room with the bulls in the bed of the pickup.

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #93 on: July 29, 2021, 03:48:30 PM »
Yeah clearly he's trying to sell them to whoever that antler buyer is. They aren't going to do anything about it either. He will just go shoot more this year and the next. The Blues are the first place I ever saw natives taking elk, and leaving elk... Three cows, one still staggering and two dead left behind. There wasn't room with the bulls in the bed of the pickup.
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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #94 on: July 30, 2021, 06:18:04 AM »
I hope this pics comes out clearer.

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #95 on: July 30, 2021, 06:50:16 AM »
Looks like nine elk skulls and one deer skull to me
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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #96 on: July 30, 2021, 11:01:36 AM »
Looks like nine elk skulls and one deer skull to me
Bottom one almost looks like a bullwinkle to me

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #97 on: July 30, 2021, 11:11:23 AM »
There are some nice elk in that pile.

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #98 on: July 30, 2021, 11:15:19 AM »
Looks like nine elk skulls and one deer skull to me
Bottom one almost looks like a bullwinkle to me

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I could see that as a possibility also.
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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #99 on: July 30, 2021, 12:14:49 PM »
Looks like nine elk skulls and one deer skull to me
Bottom one almost looks like a bullwinkle to me

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I could see that as a possibility also.
If these are from the blues there are starting to get alot more moose up there but the Indians are starting to target them also.

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #100 on: July 30, 2021, 12:37:01 PM »
There are some nice elk in that pile.
To us yes.
To him itís his property walking around waiting to be collected and sold. Complete BS they let them sell these, or jerky, or anything else that comes from them overharvesting. What they harvest should be used for their own food and ceremonies. But whatever we will keep using our money to manage the herd so hopefully they have something left to shoot at year-round. I really wish all the upstanding tribal members which Iím sure are the majority would put these pieces of crap in their place

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #101 on: July 30, 2021, 08:36:01 PM »
All these comments regaurding Indians are irrelevant. We need to focus on predators which we can force some control over.
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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #102 on: August 01, 2021, 06:02:55 AM »
All these comments regaurding Indians are irrelevant. We need to focus on predators which we can force some control over.
Yes we need to focus on predators you are correct there, but something has to be done about the natives also.  It is going be a slaughter fest up there now, now that lick creek has burned.  That was one of the thickest parts of the blues.  But the Indians will have a hay day in there just like they do on willow once the snow flies.

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2021, 09:21:51 AM »
All these comments regaurding Indians are irrelevant. We need to focus on predators which we can force some control over.
Yes we need to focus on predators you are correct there, but something has to be done about the natives also.  It is going be a slaughter fest up there now, now that lick creek has burned.  That was one of the thickest parts of the blues.  But the Indians will have a hay day in there just like they do on willow once the snow flies.

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"Something has to be done about Natives  Also"   
THIS is a great volunteer opportunity for you.  I encourage you to go down the rabbit hole and report back on what you read and find. Im quite certain it would take at least a year of constant reading just to become knowlegeable enough to realize that for the same effort we could  make a difference on predators.

In archery we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns round and seeks for the cause of his failure in himself. 

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Re: DEFINING THE BLUE MOUNTAINS ELK MANAGEMENT PROBLEM
« Reply #104 on: August 01, 2021, 09:44:01 AM »
All these comments regaurding Indians are irrelevant. We need to focus on predators which we can force some control over.
Yes we need to focus on predators you are correct there, but something has to be done about the natives also.  It is going be a slaughter fest up there now, now that lick creek has burned.  That was one of the thickest parts of the blues.  But the Indians will have a hay day in there just like they do on willow once the snow flies.

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"Something has to be done about Natives  Also"   
THIS is a great volunteer opportunity for you.  I encourage you to go down the rabbit hole and report back on what you read and find. Im quite certain it would take at least a year of constant reading just to become knowlegeable enough to realize that for the same effort we could  make a difference on predators.
:yeah:

Native harvest can be frustrating but it is what it is.

Predator reduction and habitat improvement is something everyone can do and it will help our herds.
Pain is temporary, achieving the goal is worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be worth it.

Every father should remember that one day his children will follow his example instead of his advice.


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